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QAIX > Search Engine Optimization > Cloaking 8 June 2006 20:08:46

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Cloaking

John Bokma 8 June 2006 20:08:46
 Can't find the cloaking thread back, but my gf was looking for a recipe,
and she found this one:

<http://www.google.­com.mx/search?hl=es&­q=pechuga+almendrado­>

Look for pechuga-de-pollo-re­llena. dietas . nom. es/ (Receta de dieta...)

Visit the page with JavaScript on

Now visit the page with JavaScript off

Isn't that spammy? Yes it is, and I reported it :-D­.

<http://www.google.­com/contact/spamrepo­rt.html>

<http://www.google.­com/search?q=site%3A­dietas.nom.es> gives close to a
1,000 results, and I am sure all use this JavaScript trick.

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Tonnie 7 June 2006 23:54:47 permanent link ]
 John Bokma wrote:> Can't find the cloaking thread back, but my gf was looking for a recipe, > and she found this one:>
Look for pechuga-de-pollo-re­llena. dietas . nom. es/ (Receta de dieta...)>
Visit the page with JavaScript on>
Now visit the page with JavaScript off>
Isn't that spammy? Yes it is, and I reported it :-D­.>
<http://www.google.­com/search?q=site%3A­dietas.nom.es> gives close to a > 1,000 results, and I am sure all use this JavaScript trick.

Definitly cloacking, a look at the cache already tells a whole different
story then what a 'normal' visitor would see.



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FelixDEhuiskater 8 June 2006 00:09:23 permanent link ]
 
John Bokma schreef:
Can't find the cloaking thread back, but my gf was looking for a recipe,> and she found this one:>
Look for pechuga-de-pollo-re­llena. dietas . nom. es/ (Receta de dieta...)>
Visit the page with JavaScript on>
Now visit the page with JavaScript off>
Isn't that spammy? Yes it is, and I reported it :-D­.>
<http://www.google.­com/search?q=site%3A­dietas.nom.es> gives close to a> 1,000 results, and I am sure all use this JavaScript trick.>
--> John Freelance Perl programmer: http://castleamber.­com/>
A better start menu with Quick Launch:> http://johnbokma.co­m/windows/quick-laun­ch.html

I see it also

That reporting, has that ever helped?

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John Bokma 8 June 2006 01:23:37 permanent link ]
 "FelixDEhuiskater" <pascal.beyens@gmai­l.com> wrote:
That reporting, has that ever helped?

I have seen sites gone from Google several weeks after I reported them.

Google first tries to see if they can automatically drop them from the
index (or so I understand), and if that is not possible they might
manually ban them.

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Borek 8 June 2006 02:04:15 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:23:37 +0200, John Bokma <john@castleamber.c­om>
wrote:
That reporting, has that ever helped?>
I have seen sites gone from Google several weeks after I reported them.>
Google first tries to see if they can automatically drop them from the> index (or so I understand), and if that is not possible they might> manually ban them.

Looks like in some cases G tries to contact owners. I have reported
AdSense policy violation ("visit our sponsors") and two or three weeks
later text was removed from the site. It could be accidental.

Best,
Borek
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Roy Schestowitz 8 June 2006 07:03:23 permanent link ]
 __/ [ FelixDEhuiskater ] on Wednesday 07 June 2006 21:09 \__
John Bokma schreef:>
Can't find the cloaking thread back, but my gf was looking for a recipe,>> and she found this one:>>
Look for pechuga-de-pollo-re­llena. dietas . nom. es/ (Receta de dieta...)>>
Visit the page with JavaScript on>>
Now visit the page with JavaScript off>>
Isn't that spammy? Yes it is, and I reported it :-D­.>>
<http://www.google.­com/search?q=site%3A­dietas.nom.es> gives close to a>> 1,000 results, and I am sure all use this JavaScript trick.>
I see it also>
That reporting, has that ever helped?

And speaking of which, why report just to Google? Are you trying to help them
extend their monopoly? Frankly, I think this should be somehow administered
centrally... for the benefit of all... so I have that frameset set up...
http://schestowitz.­com/Weblog/archives/­2006/05/31/service-p­lagiarism/
http://www.schestow­itz.com/report-spam/­

With kind regards,

Roy
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John Bokma 8 June 2006 10:07:33 permanent link ]
 Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:
And speaking of which, why report just to Google? Are you trying to> help them extend their monopoly?

Can a monopoly be extended?


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Roy Schestowitz 8 June 2006 11:18:09 permanent link ]
 __/ [ John Bokma ] on Thursday 08 June 2006 07:07 \__
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:>
And speaking of which, why report just to Google? Are you trying to>> help them extend their monopoly?>
Can a monopoly be extended?

*smile*

Well, it can start a monopoly in another domain. Think, for example, about a
company selling routers, which decides to bundle servers in a way that
assists penetration into another niche. In the case of Google, for example,
you could help them have some plagiarism detector utility (yes, I know most
of them are based on Google already). Bad example, but still... if the
public contributes information to just one player... and that information
might be of high value, collectively... you know...? Like Spamcop.net.

Best wishes,

Roy

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FelixDEhuiskater 8 June 2006 15:04:46 permanent link ]
 
John Bokma schreef:
"FelixDEhuiskater" <pascal.beyens@gmai­l.com> wrote:>
That reporting, has that ever helped?>
I have seen sites gone from Google several weeks after I reported them.>
Google first tries to see if they can automatically drop them from the> index (or so I understand), and if that is not possible they might> manually ban them.>
--> John Freelance Perl programmer: http://castleamber.­com/>
Creating a customized Command Prompt shortcut:> http://johnbokma.co­m/windows/command-pr­ompt-shortcut.html

i have reported some sites months ago, every single one off them is
still there

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John Bokma 8 June 2006 20:08:46 permanent link ]
 "FelixDEhuiskater" <pascal.beyens@gmai­l.com> wrote:
i have reported some sites months ago, every single one off them is> still there

Maybe it's a good idea to report those sites here as well, so we can
report them as well. Maybe 10 people reporting makes a difference :-D­.

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