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HU - DC update

Paul 8 June 2006 20:33:01
 
They have now updated the following DC's

64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.147

'bout bloody time.

plh
Paul

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Www.1-Script.Com 8 June 2006 01:04:42 [ permanent link ]
 Paul wrote:
They have now updated the following DC's
64.233.161.99 > 64.233.161.104 > 64.233.161.147
'bout bloody time.

Na-ah. None of my sites moved a slightest bit there. Additionally, the
site:operator is still broken on those DCs as well as all the others.
Google was acting a bit weird yesterday here in NE US. Delayed queries,
once didn't even respond. I thought it could be a sign of datacenters
exchanging a big chunk of data and using up the bandwidth, but it must
have been something else 'cause I don't see any change at all today.


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Paul 8 June 2006 01:21:32 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:04:42 GMT, info_at_1-script_do­t_com@foo.com
(www.1-script.com) wrote:
Paul wrote:>
They have now updated the following DC's>
64.233.161.99 >> 64.233.161.104 >> 64.233.161.147 >
'bout bloody time.>
Na-ah. None of my sites moved a slightest bit there. Additionally, the>site:operator is still broken on those DCs as well as all the others. >Google was acting a bit weird yesterday here in NE US. Delayed queries,>once didn't even respond. I thought it could be a sign of datacenters>exchang­ing a big chunk of data and using up the bandwidth, but it must>have been something else 'cause I don't see any change at all today.

Are you using Tippy ?

I have been watching it for weeks.

First
64.233.167.99 41
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
came and went, came and went, then stayed as they are.

Then came
64.233.179.99
which has been there for about 1.5 weeks.

Today
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.147

These three show slightly different results than the other 4
mentioned.

Agreed, some keywords have not altered much from before to after, so
you may not notice.

If you want to keep an eye on it, then the keywords I used was :
beaded jewelry

for the site : http://www. houstoncrafts.com

I've been watching it like a bloody hawk.
plh
Paul

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Roy Schestowitz 8 June 2006 06:43:16 [ permanent link ]
 __/ [ Paul ] on Wednesday 07 June 2006 22:21 \__
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:04:42 GMT, info_at_1-script_do­t_com@foo.com> (www.1-script.com) wrote:>
Paul wrote:>>
They have now updated the following DC's>>
64.233.161.99>>> 64.233.161.104>>> 64.233.161.147>>
'bout bloody time.


I see no change. You got my hopes high(er) in vain. *frown* All the sites
which reside on the same IP (Web host) lost pages quite arbitrarily.

Na-ah. None of my sites moved a slightest bit there. Additionally, the>>site:operator is still broken on those DCs as well as all the others.>>Google was acting a bit weird yesterday here in NE US. Delayed queries,>>once didn't even respond. I thought it could be a sign of datacenters>>exchan­ging a big chunk of data and using up the bandwidth, but it must>>have been something else 'cause I don't see any change at all today.


Would it be safe to say that the 'site:' operator is not broken? I mean, the
pages are obviously not there. They must have been lost whilst the
datacentres were exchanging data and Big Daddy 'poisoned' many of the rest.
It's part of the algorithm which shares the load and balances things so that
one crawler complements all other storage houses.

Are you using Tippy ?


Even tried Darren's tools; not close, and no cigar.

I have been watching it for weeks.>
First> 64.233.167.99 41> 64.233.167.104> 64.233.167.147> came and went, came and went, then stayed as they are.



I'm not sure if this is indicative of anything...
Then came> 64.233.179.99> which has been there for about 1.5 weeks.>
Today> 64.233.161.99> 64.233.161.104> 64.233.161.147>
These three show slightly different results than the other 4> mentioned.>
Agreed, some keywords have not altered much from before to after, so> you may not notice.


For me, this is not a matter of SERP positions. It is about having Google
(which still crawls my sites) actually add the missing pages to the index.

If you want to keep an eye on it, then the keywords I used was :> beaded jewelry>
for the site : http://www. houstoncrafts.com>
I've been watching it like a bloody hawk.


*sigh* Try 'bloody hawk' with http://www. houstoncrafts.com and you will
always see the same outcome. *smile*

Best wishes,

Roy

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Darren Tipton 8 June 2006 10:11:17 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 11:07:11 -0500, Paul
<lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo­.com> wrote:
They have now updated the following DC's>
64.233.161.99 >64.233.161.104 >64.233.161.147 >
'bout bloody time.

The one big thing I've noticed is that there is generally no
stability.

Some of the datacenters dont seem to move much at all, but I have
noticed out of 127million results I now appear back on page 1 at least
for my chosen search terms and my traffic has increased by about 30%
on last month (if I take out SE spiders).

There is huge variability on a day to day basis almost like the system
is updating in real time now not on it's monthly dance, it's acting
more like MSN in how it updates.

I've got a few results now since Google started re-spidering and the
pages are back in the index quickly (about 2 day lag), showing that
once it's spidered they are getting put in their and searchable almost
immediately.

Before this happened the index dropped about 90% of the pages in the
index and respidered (which my ISP tell me they are confident their
"block") wouldn't have had too much an effect on. Google Sitemaps
seems happy.

Just my observations.

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Paul 8 June 2006 10:24:17 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:43:16 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:
*sigh* Try 'bloody hawk' with http://www. houstoncrafts.com and you will>always see the same outcome. *smile*

not at all

American Indian Jewelry is a very new SERP for me for the firstpeople
site.

I see the same DC's showing results. and the same dcs that did not
show results with HC are the same.

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Paul 8 June 2006 15:22:01 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:43:16 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:
I see no change. You got my hopes high(er) in vain. *frown* All the sites>which reside on the same IP (Web host) lost pages quite arbitrarily.

yes, but are you looking at stable SERPs or climbing SERPS ?

For instance, If I was using Tippy, and used the Key Phrase "First
People" for the www. firstpeople.us site - then yes, I would not see a
change (maybe a subtile movement in SERPS}
I would call that a stable SERP

On the other hand, using Tippy with American Indian Jewelry as the
keyphrase and the same site, then you will see that there are 3 more
DCs to catch up.
As this is a fairly new SERP for the site, I would call that a
climbing SERP.

The reason why you probably haven't seen a change is because all your
SERPs are stable to start with.

plh
Paul

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Roy Schestowitz 8 June 2006 20:18:21 [ permanent link ]
 __/ [ Paul ] on Thursday 08 June 2006 12:22 \__
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:43:16 +0100, Roy Schestowitz> <newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:>
I see no change. You got my hopes high(er) in vain. *frown* All the sites>>which reside on the same IP (Web host) lost pages quite arbitrarily.>
yes, but are you looking at stable SERPs or climbing SERPS ?>
For instance, If I was using Tippy, and used the Key Phrase "First> People" for the www. firstpeople.us site - then yes, I would not see a> change (maybe a subtile movement in SERPS}> I would call that a stable SERP>
On the other hand, using Tippy with American Indian Jewelry as the> keyphrase and the same site, then you will see that there are 3 more> DCs to catch up.> As this is a fairly new SERP for the site, I would call that a> climbing SERP.>
The reason why you probably haven't seen a change is because all your> SERPs are stable to start with.

I think you are gauging peanuts here, neglecting to see the broader picture,
which is the point where the number indexed pages is elevated again. I don't
know if they will automagically re-appear overnight (the 'wishful
thinking'). I think it's unlikely and I see no dynamicity at present. Then
again, Google exclaimed that the site: operator is broken, so...

Given the amount of data I can find in cache, as well as the amount of
traffic, it seems rather evident that disinformation should be a possibility
here. Maybe it's an update. A *BAD* update. Maybe it's here to stay. Maybe
Google will even perish in due course, as a consequence (punishment?)

Anyhoo... if I were you, I'd stop worrying about this mild changes in SERP's,
hoping that they somehow indicate a state where Google reverts to past glory
(well, _our_ glory methinks *LOL*). It's almost as though you throw a tiny
pebble at a lake, admiring the ripples before a giant white whale emerges
from the water (hmmm... maybe I feel a bit poetic at the moment...).

Best wishes,

Roy

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Paul 8 June 2006 20:33:01 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:18:21 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:
__/ [ Paul ] on Thursday 08 June 2006 12:22 \__>
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:43:16 +0100, Roy Schestowitz>> <newsgroups@schesto­witz.com> wrote:>>
I see no change. You got my hopes high(er) in vain. *frown* All the sites>>>which reside on the same IP (Web host) lost pages quite arbitrarily.>>
yes, but are you looking at stable SERPs or climbing SERPS ?>>
For instance, If I was using Tippy, and used the Key Phrase "First>> People" for the www. firstpeople.us site - then yes, I would not see a>> change (maybe a subtile movement in SERPS}>> I would call that a stable SERP>>
On the other hand, using Tippy with American Indian Jewelry as the>> keyphrase and the same site, then you will see that there are 3 more>> DCs to catch up.>> As this is a fairly new SERP for the site, I would call that a>> climbing SERP.>>
The reason why you probably haven't seen a change is because all your>> SERPs are stable to start with.>
I think you are gauging peanuts here, neglecting to see the broader picture,

Not at all. Even the broader picture starts somewhere.

[..]>
Anyhoo... if I were you, I'd stop worrying about this mild changes in SERP's,

Who said I was worrying ?
I am not.
Concerned, but not worried.

hoping that they somehow indicate a state where Google reverts to past glory>(well, _our_ glory methinks *LOL*). It's almost as though you throw a tiny>pebble at a lake, admiring the ripples before a giant white whale emerges>from the water (hmmm... maybe I feel a bit poetic at the moment...).>
Best wishes,>
Roy

plh
Paul

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