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2nd: switch between template sets

Niels Dettenbach 15 October 2008 16:54:29
 Dear List readers and ZMS devels,

regarding my last posting yesterday i will try to "simplify" my
question. May
be someone is on the same way currently or still knows a solution for
this:
--

My target is to use different ZMS template sets (or subsets with
different
methodes) for the same zms instance - one for "default" www and one
for a
mobile / handheld "version" (not just a mobile CSS).

This means a website user should be able to switch between different
template
sets on his request - e.g. based on URI (preferrably) or by a session
var.

The selected Theme / template set should be persistent over (internal)
links.

I assume there should be a way to realize this - the content and his
presentation should be independent in a modern CMS.

this feature would offer us:
=======

- Usage of a browser switch (like WURFL) to recognize mobile browsers
and
(re-)direct them to the "mobile version" of the ZMS site.

- Offer a alternative link, button or dropdown menu to the mobile
version
(and back) on the page

- The ZMS can deliver a different content stream, smaller amount of
(mobile) XHTML and "optimized" content objects ("...Float") for mobile
users

- it is possible to present a subset of the content objects (like a
meta
attribute: "show in mobile page too").

- easy exchange and installation of different template sets (by
folders)
within a running ZMS site

my (current) solution(s):
========
Until now i didn't find a proper and really handy solution for that.

I tried to use the usual Zope aquisition by URI (see last mail) - but
with no
luck. Because ZMS is looking for some static method IDs
(like "bodyContent_Float"­) i have two options in general:

1.) place different methodes into a sub folder and use Zope aquisition
(preferrably)

2.) use sessions and put if/else clauses in every by ZMS required
template
method (this would be result in very [!] unhandy code and template
sets)

...so i tried some solutions like (1.) - but this seems not to work
for me
("Index out of range").

For other / own ZOPE applications (1.) works reliable as required for
me.

(ZMS / Zope Caching is disabled / not even required for this site.)

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Many thanks in advance for any help.

cheers and
best regards,

Niels.

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Christian Meier 6 September 2008 01:00:00 [ permanent link ]
 Hello Niels,

My target is to use different ZMS template sets (or subsets with
different
methodes) for the same zms instance - one for "default" www and one
for a
mobile / handheld "version" (not just a mobile CSS).

Maybe my proposed approach for filesystem-based template-editing meets
your needs:
https://mail.dzug.o­rg/pipermail/zope/20­08-February/005368.h­tml [https://mail.dzug.o­rg/pipermail/zope/20­08-February/005368.h­tml]
[German]

Step 3 for calling the templates in sub-folders could be extended to
switch between default and mobile version. If the mobile-version is
served via a sub-domain like mobile.foo.com, the selection of the
right version could be done with a simple condition like this:

<dtml-if "URL.find(' http://mobile.foo.c­om [http://mobile.foo.c­om]')==0">
<dtml-with mobile_folder>
<dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
<dtml-else>
<dtml-with default_folder>
<dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
</dtml-if>

Maybe you can bypass the acquisition-problem­s this way...

Regards, Christian Meier

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 Am Freitag 05 September 2008 schrieb Christian Meier:
<dtml-if "URL.find(' http://mobile.foo.c­om [http://mobile.foo.c­om]')==0">
<dtml-with mobile_folder>
б б б б б б б б <dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
<dtml-else>
<dtml-with default_folder>
б б б б б б б б <dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
</dtml-if>
Maybe you can bypass the acquisition-problem­s this way...

Hello Christian,

this seems to work as expected from my side ;)

It would be really nice to find a more general way in future zms
versions to
switch between different "template sets". Content and layout should
be "independent" in a modern cms - from my view this includes a
integrated
concept of representing the content in different ways and/or themes on
request.

best regards and a nice weekend,

Niels.

btw:
ZMS is really a very good stuff...

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 Hello Christian,

may be i've done something wrong. If i place differing dtml methodes
from my
templates to a sub-folder "mobile_folder" like in your code i seem to
loose
some of the current context.

Independent from how deep iam navigate in the page - so i.e.
"getLevel()"
returns everytime "0".

This means a lot of important ZMS methodes are not working (like
ChildNodes
methodes etc.).

May be i have to set the current context explicitely somewhere in my
code?

If i place all the methodes of my second template within the root
folder of
the zms instance (like the default template methodes) everything works
- but
this is not a nice solution...

May be someone can point me to a solution of that?

many thanks to your all.

cheers,

Niels.

Am Freitag 05 September 2008 schrieb Christian Meier:
<dtml-if "URL.find(' http://mobile.foo.c­om [http://mobile.foo.c­om]')==0">
<dtml-with mobile_folder>
б б б б б б б б <dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
<dtml-else>
<dtml-with default_folder>
б б б б б б б б <dtml-var standard_html_heade­r>
</dtml-with>
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thisObj.getLevel() should work - use thisObj for all API-function
calls.
...many thanks - yes i've not read this part at the end of your doc.

It seems to work as expected ;)

cheers,

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