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Wednesday, 24 September 2008
Does IE6 in XP render differently? Nando 03:47:24
 I ran across an oddity the other day ... I develop on Win2000 and
usually check page layouts in IE5, 5.5 and 6, Netscape, Firefox, and
on a few Mac browsers (depending on the client). A co-worker brought
to my attention the fact that a page she had designed was rendering
very differently on her XP IE6. Whoops!

The offending code seems to be my use of padding, or indeed any type
of css sizing (width, margin, padding, height. Something as simple as:

<div style="padding-top:­20px;">
A few words in here
</div>

within a TD having a height attribute in the tag renders very
differently in IE6 on XP (on her machine) than in all the other
browsers i'm testing on. At first glance, it seems to indicate that
the only way around this is to go back to using spacer gifs (uhhgg!).

Before i over-react - has anyone else run into this before? Can you
give me an idea of the scope of the problem?

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What a function expects.... Deanna Schneider 03:47:22
 Okay, so I'm working on my first app that really makes use of components,
and I _thought_ it was perfectly acceptable to say that a function expects
an argument, the type of which is another object. So, for example, I have a
dbData object, I should be able to do this:

application.dbdata = createObject("compo­nent", "cfc.ces.DBData").i­nit();

And, then, if I have the following code in another init function:
<cffunction access="public" name="init" returntype="Survey"­ output="false"
hint="Initializes the object, setting the data access parameters.">
<cfargument name="dbdata" required="true" type="DBData">
<cfset variables.dbdata = arguments.DBData>
<cfreturn this />
</cffunction>

I should be able to do this:
session.thisSurvey = createObject("compo­nent",
"ces.apps.360Review­.cfc.survey").init(a­pplication.dbdata);

However, I get an error saying that the dbdata argument is not of type
dbdata. If I say it can accept any type, it initializes just fine. And then
I can use the dbdata object just like I'd expect to be able to in the survey
componenet:
For example, this code in the survey object:
datasource="#variab­les.dbdata.getDSN()#­"
works just fine.

Am I crazy? What am I missing?


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CFCHART X-Axis Labelling... Dan G. Switzer 03:47:19
 Is there a way to get each item label to show up when using CFCHART? It
seems to want to skip some items. I need it to show each label item.

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Help! Is there any way to log all database query times to a log? Ed Smith 03:47:17
 Hi all,

We're trying to debug a performance problem that has cropped up recently.

What happens is that all threads (that use database connections) hang for a
period of time. Then, some query passes through the system with a long
query time, and there rest of the held up processes blow through. A CFSTAT
is at the bottom of the email that shows this behavior.

An analysis of the database (Oracle 9i) shows no tables locked, no load
problems, plenty of free connections.

All threads that use a database seem to be held up.

The database settings are Pooled, but no limit to connections.

The CF Server is MX6.1 with all current updaters - there are 3 servers load
balanced using a BigIP. All servers exhibit the behavior, but not at the
same time (although sometimes they do).

There are no server, application, or named locks that would account for this
behavior.

What I was hoping to find is a way to add some code to an OnRequestEnd
template that would dump the database query times to a file, so I could look
for excessively long queries during that time period.

I've not been able to find any documented features in CF that would allow me
to do that.

Any ideas of how I could get database query times (like they appear in
debugging) to be dumped to a file?

Thanks in advance!

Edward Smith
Chief Architect
Internet Broadcasting.


Pg/Sec DB/Sec CP/Sec Reqs Reqs Reqs AvgQ AvgReq AvgDB Bytes Bytes
Now Hi Now Hi Now Hi Q'ed Run'g TO'ed Time Time Time In/Sec
Out/Sec
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 33 0 0 46502 13976 0 0
3 17 13 222 -1 -1 0 30 0 0 30645 2114 0 0
17 17 95 222 -1 -1 0 13 0 0 10850 62 912 0
9 17 65 222 -1 -1 0 7 0 0 30166 10 2908 18466
4 17 43 222 -1 -1 0 6 0 0 4038 7 2654 174042
1 17 1 222 -1 -1 0 5 0 0 2215 114 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 7 0 0 2215 114 1510 0
2 17 5 222 -1 -1 0 7 0 0 628 14 1220 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 7 0 0 628 14 0 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 9 0 0 628 14 0 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 9 0 0 353 42 0 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 21 0 0 353 6075 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 22 0 0 353 6075 1157 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 23 0 0 353 6075 986 0

Pg/Sec DB/Sec CP/Sec Reqs Reqs Reqs AvgQ AvgReq AvgDB Bytes Bytes
Now Hi Now Hi Now Hi Q'ed Run'g TO'ed Time Time Time In/Sec
Out/Sec
0 17 3 222 -1 -1 0 23 0 0 353 18212 0 324126
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 23 0 0 353 18212 0 70217
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 25 0 0 353 18212 1181 39047
1 17 8 222 -1 -1 0 28 0 0 6405 7237 21307 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 31 0 0 6405 7237 2053 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 31 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 33 0 0 6405 7237 1892 46811
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 34 0 0 6405 7237 1377 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 34 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 35 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 35 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
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0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 37 0 0 6405 7237 970 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 38 0 0 6405 7237 971 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 39 0 0 6405 7237 897 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 39 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 40 0 0 6405 7237 13354 46856
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 40 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 41 0 0 6405 7237 947 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 41 0 0 6405 7237 0 0

Pg/Sec DB/Sec CP/Sec Reqs Reqs Reqs AvgQ AvgReq AvgDB Bytes Bytes
Now Hi Now Hi Now Hi Q'ed Run'g TO'ed Time Time Time In/Sec
Out/Sec
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 41 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 41 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 44 0 0 6405 7237 2817 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 44 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 45 0 0 6405 7237 1103 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 47 0 0 6405 7237 7041 46856
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 47 0 0 6405 7237 0 0
2 17 17 222 -1 -1 0 47 0 0 74204 28965 1725 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 47 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 50 0 0 74204 28965 3184 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 50 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 50 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 50 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 51 0 0 74204 28965 915 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 51 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 51 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 51 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 51 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 283 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 46811
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0

Pg/Sec DB/Sec CP/Sec Reqs Reqs Reqs AvgQ AvgReq AvgDB Bytes Bytes
Now Hi Now Hi Now Hi Q'ed Run'g TO'ed Time Time Time In/Sec
Out/Sec
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
0 17 0 222 -1 -1 0 52 0 0 74204 28965 0 0
3 17 24 222 -1 -1 0 50 0 0 69543 14495 283 0
6 17 63 222 -1 -1 0 45 0 0 56687 16 1034 0
9 17 50 222 -1 -1 0 36 0 0 53063 58 1472 46634
19 19 113 222 -1 -1 0 17 0 0 45466 36 732 139649
9 19 73 222 -1 -1 0 10 0 0 21576 41 1960 25304
0 19 16 222 -1 -1 0 10 0 0 21576 205 0 46811
2 19 38 222 -1 -1 0 8 0 0 8994 17 0 270056
5 19 72 222 -1 -1 0 5 0 0 17065 8 1849 222620
2 19 12 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 39835 6 742 173292
0 19 0 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 39835 6 0 0
4 19 11 222 -1 -1 0 5 0 0 2621 4 3987 0
2 19 9 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 782 11 720 46856
0 19 0 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 782 11 0 0
2 19 7 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 313 8 1270 0
0 19 18 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 313 16 0 0
2 19 14 222 -1 -1 0 4 0 0 12480 14 2844 251076
3 19 20 222 -1 -1 0 5 0 0 1743 14 4215 78851
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another ad you won't be seeing... Charlie Griefer 03:47:16
 apparently was never meant for public viewing (which is a good thing)...

http://www.snopes.c­om/photos/commercial­s/vwpolo.asp

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cfinclude outside of site document root? Damien McKenna 03:47:15
 Is it possible to cfinclude a file from outside of a site's configured
document root (in IIS)? At work we have about six different sites
between intranet and internet sites and many of them share some basic
information (company name, address, some standard URLs, etc). Is this
possible? Thanks.
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merger translation Phillip P Rutherford II 03:47:14
 http://daringfirebal­l.net/2005/04/adobe_­translation

Ha!
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Interesting poll numbers in Muslim countries... Robert Munn 03:47:13
 Very interesting. Support for terrorism is dropping dramatically, and the populations of many of these countries now believe that democracy can work in their countries.

http://www.washingt­onpost.com/wp-dyn/co­ntent/article/2005/0­7/14/AR2005071401030­.html

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Mail in Undelivr folder Timothy Claremont 03:47:12
 One of my pages sends an email. It has been working fine. Today however,
I noticed that one email was stuck in the UNDELIVR folder, with this
error message in the mail log file:

"Error","scheduler-­4","05/18/05","11:57­:44",,"Could not connect to SMTP
host: VIAHEALTH80-2, port: 25; nested exception is:
java.net.ConnectExc­eption: Connection timed out: connect"

Curious, I filled out my feedback form to see if I would eventually get
both emails. I did get the second email almost immediately.

When I manually moved the errant email to the spool folder it got send
almost immediately.

Can anyone explain how I can recover from these issues and get get the
email out of the undelivr folder and back into the spool folder in cases
like this? If I had not been paying attention that email could have sat
there for quite some time, with no indication to the end users that
there was an issue.

MX6.1 on Win2k3

TIA,
Tim

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Kerry's grades at Yale Robert Munn 03:47:11
 Did anyone see the coverage yesterday about Kerry's grades from Yale finally being released with his Navy transcript? No wonder he didn't want that stuff released during the campaign.

Kerry (and the Democrats) claimed the intellectual high ground and tried to drive home the message that Bush was a bonehead, but his grades were no better than Bush's at Yale. Kerry, of course, claims that he was busy with lots of other stuff, which is why he got four D's his freshman year.

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Re: [Tinymce-users] Changing the font size in the control box. Damien McKenna 03:47:10
 Ian Skinner wrote:
From how I see that tinymce is constructed, this should be easy. But, > I can't seem to find the right style to change. How does one control > the font properties of the text in the control that the editor has > been applied to?>
Hey Ian, I saw your message in CF-Talk which prodded me to reply.
Take a look at the CSS files in "tiny_mce\themes\de­fault", that's
probably what you want.
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So much for SP2 security... Howie Hamlin 03:47:08
 Basically, a user would have to follow instructions on a web site and, in essence, infect their own PC. I guess this is not a very big security risk but it's another mark on the release of SP2. Note that this expolit also works on a fully patched WinXP SP1 system.

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CF MX Connector Richard Wigfall 03:47:07
 I am running CF MX 6.1 on a RedHat AS2.1 server and Apache 1.3.27. When ColdFusion starts, the following warning message appears:
[warn] Loaded DSO /opt/coldfusionmx/r­untime/lib/wsconfig/­l/mod_jrun.so uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI)
Can anyone tell me how to fix this, and where I can find the fix?
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HD selection/install question Dana Tierney 03:47:05
 This is getting silly. I have an E drive that is eight times the size of me C drive, which is also very full of Adobe Suite, which I definitely need.

Now I am installing CF and it is complaining about lack of space on the C drive. I do not see a way to make it install to E drive, but maybe I am just not seeing it and if there is such an option, that would probably be the simplest solution to my (current) problem.

Otherwise, I am reasonably at ease with getting my hands into the guts of my computer... how can I make my current drive e my drive c? (D = CD ROM)Is this BIOS? Or would it be easier to just physically change the controller setup? There is no warranty that I would have to worry about voiding.

thanks for any thoughts
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list reverse function Protoculture 03:47:04
 does anyone have a listreverse udf kicking around or know of one?

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Tax Refund Calculator Michael T. Tangorre 03:47:03
 Anyone have a favorite site to plug in some numbers off a final pay check to
get a rough estimate as to the amount one might get refunded or owe?

I googled already and got a couple but I did not like the results :-)­


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using jars without classpath? Joshua OConnor-Rose 03:47:02
 Just got some new information on the project.

Evidently the client is using a shared server and they
have some rules.

Is in possible in CF to use createObject or cfinvoke
or cfobject to access java classes or .jar without
them being configured in the class path.

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FLiP Methodology..... Mario Ciliotta 03:47:01
 HI,

Does anyone on this list use the FLiP Methodology. I was wondering exactly
what this is and what the benefits are of using it.

Thanks

Mario

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DB Survey Tiki Guy 03:47:00
 Hi All,

Just curious as to what applications people use when designing their DB's - Visio? Pen and Paper? Bueller?

My current shop likes to "wing it" and frankly that's not so good. I'd like to recommend something a little more standardized, and if I can ascertain what might be considered an industry standard, my suggestion might carry more weight.

I've always been a pen and paper guy, doing data dictionaries first and determing relationships before committing to the DB. I'd like soemthing though, that is a bit more portable (and readable) than my chicken scratch.

~Tikiguy

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FW: PROPOSAL WOULD LET SCHWARZENEGGER RUN FOR PRESIDENT Larry C. Lyons 03:46:59
 PROPOSAL WOULD LET SCHWARZENEGGER RUN FOR PRESIDENT
A United States politician has introduced a constitutional amendment in
Congress that would allow foreign-born citizens to run for president.
FULL STORY:

http://cbc.ca/stori­es/2004/09/16/amend0­40916

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XML Form question Matt Osbun 03:46:57
 I've recently begun updating one of our web apps- adding some new
features, improving the coding style, and taking advantage of some of
the new CF7 features.

One form was laid out in a nested-table layout, with HTML and CFM
controls mixed in. I rewrote it using a CF7 XML format with cfformgroup
tags, and execution time went through the roof. I rewrote the queries
on the page to use cached results, and managed to get execution time
down to about 11000 ms, on average, according to the debug information.

I changed the format back to HTML, and execution time sank to about 250
ms.

I chopped the form down to a very bare-bones layout, but the execution
time increace was roughly the same.

Now, there's nothing requiring me to use an XML format here, so I'll
likely switch to HTML and replace the table layout with DIV's. The
Label attribute of cfinput and <cfformgroup> are convieniences, to be
sure, but not requirements. I'm just curious to see if anyone else has
seen this. Is this normal, or is there likely a misconfiguration on my
server? I'd expect a performance hit using XML format versus HTML, but
the scale I'm seeing seems a bit excessive.


Matt Osbun
Web Developer
Health Systems, International


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OT: [CFUG] CF Web Services and CF.NET! Judith Dinowitz 03:46:53
 This month the New York ColdFusion User Group is having two great meetings with two great speakers. The first meeting will be even better than what you may be expecting! On Tuesday, June 8, at 6:30 PM, Charlie Arehart of New Atlanta will be speaking on two separate but very interesting topics:

"Building Web Services with CFML"

****** and ******

"Deploying CFML on .NET: Yes...*ON* the .NET Framework"

The first is a topic of utmost importance to ColdFusion and just about every other programmer nowadays: Web services. Web services is the structured transfer of information over the Internet in a standardized manner, allowing people using any language to make use of the same service without worry of getting a different result. Even if you're not using ColdFusion MX, you should certainly know what web services are and how they are used.

The second topic is even more interesting, as it is totally revolutionary:

"Deploying CFML on .NET: Yes...*ON* the .NET Framework"

This feature, currently available only on BlueDragon, allows ColdFusion code to be written in standard ColdFusion, and then run on the .NET framework.

When? Tomorrow (Tuesday) night, June 8, 2004, 6:30 PM
Where? NYU Medical Center, 550 1st Avenue, Coles 101

You'll find more details on this exciting meeting below. New Atlanta will also be sponsoring this meeting, so there will be pizza and sodas (and a raffle for some free software) as well.

Please RSVP on our site (http://www.nycfug.­org) if you're coming so we can include you in our order for refreshments.

"Building Web Services with CFML"

CFML has to be one of the easiest languages with which to create and consume Web Services. Both CFMX, and now BlueDragon 6.1, allow you to easily extend CFC methods to publish them as web services, and it's just as easy to consume them as well. You don't need to understand much to get started. In this introduction to the topic, veteran CFUG speaker Charlie Arehart will show how easy it is, explaining why they're useful, showing the basics you need to know about CFCs, and discussing important issues like security and exception handling. More and more vendors, organizations, and developers are
taking advantage of Web Services. Don't be left behind!

"Deploying CFML on .NET: Yes...*ON* the .NET Framework"

Many by now know that both ColdFusion MX and BlueDragon 6.1 permit you to deploy CFML on a J2EE server. This is important for shops moving to standards-based architectures, for whom running ColdFusion (or even BlueDragon) servers is no longer acceptable. But what if your shop (or a client) is moving to .NET? Macromedia's only current solution is web
services integration, but with BlueDragon/.NET it's possible to run the CFML on the .NET framework. It's still just CFML, redeployed. The opportunities for integration with native .NET component (ASP.NET and more) are tremendous.

In this talk, veteran CFUG speaker Charlie Arehart, CTO of New Atlanta (makers of BlueDragon) will explain the environment motivating this need, as well as the enterprise integration possibilities it enables. Even if you don't see a need to support .NET, you likely will. For folks with large investments in CFML and CFML developers, it's a unique solution that helps keep CFML alive and thriving. It might even win over projects otherwise slated for ASP.NET!


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Using SMTP authentication for CFMAIL Eric Creese 03:46:51
 Okay I have my SMTP ACCESS tab set up where the Annonymmus box is unchecked and the Basic and Windows boxes are checked. So now I am assuming that to use my SMTP you will have to authenticate. So in CFAdmin how do you set this up. It states to authenticate you need to enter this format for the SMTP server. user:p­assword-P7M3l­TTdq7fgrfsDPUpxAA@pu­blic.gmane.org I do not understand this format. Where do I set up mail.mysite.com? Can someone please explain?

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RE: Time tracking Coldfusion 03:46:50
 I use Prowork Flow
http://www.proworkf­low.com/

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Time tracking


Does anyone have recommendation for software that can be used for
project/time tracking. Nothing fancy, just basic time entry and
reports/invoices. Ease of use and preferrably a stand alone
application. Free or inexpensive. It will only be used by one person.

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Apples new RSS reader Marlon Moyer 03:46:49
 Looks like they got the interface right again.

http://www.apple.co­m/macosx/tiger/theat­er/safari.html

Sigh. I really, really need to buy a Mac one day.

Marlon

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