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Scott Taylor 9 October 2002 21:35:38
 I have got myself into a bit of a mess by having both Apache 1.3.23 and Apache
2 on my system.

I deleted the directory /usr/local/apache2 (although this still shows when you
type "locate apache2" and still appears to run when you type "httpd")

I am now trying to remove the rpm for 1.3.23 and it says I will be breaking
dependencies if I did.

I "cd /usr/sbin" and type "./httpd" and can get a test page in my browser
(although I do not know which version it is for)

I was trying to delete all versions and start fresh with 1.3.27.

Can anyone help?

Regards

Scott

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Darren 16 November 2000 21:30:11 permanent link ]
 Hi I'm totally new to the php scene. I am a programmer in many languages
including C and Java and I have been told these are good foundations for
PHP.
Can anyone tell me how to get started in php?

Thanks in advance



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Sven-Emil Vaara 16 November 2000 21:41:17 permanent link ]
 Easy..

Just download the manual, and start reading :)­
It's VERY like C, so you will not have any problems converting.

http://php.net/

/Sven-Emil Vaara

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Kai Hinkelmann 16 November 2000 21:46:09 permanent link ]
 1. install a webserver on your machine. The PWS under win98, IIS under NT or
apache under LINUX are working good.
2. under win: install the php-support. Look at php3.org for the "how to".
Most LINUX-distributions­ comes with ready to use php-support.
3. Check if your server answers at http://localhost" (just enter it in the
adressfield of your browser)
4. If you see something like "welcome", the linux-distribution-­site or
something like that (anything but an error) every works fine are you are
ready to go.

More you can find at php3.org. And don't forget: variables start with '$' !

Bye.

"Darren" <darrenls21@ntlworl­d.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
8v15kc$8p2$1@toye.p­.sourceforge.net...>­ Hi I'm totally new to the php scene. I am a programmer in many languages> including C and Java and I have been told these are good foundations for> PHP.> Can anyone tell me how to get started in php?>
Thanks in advance>
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Joe Stump 17 November 2000 08:26:54 permanent link ]
 php.net/manual (excellent source)
phpbuilder.com/
weberdev.com/

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Simon Stewart 15 April 2002 18:16:20 permanent link ]
 How do I get to use Postgres as the backend database instead of hsqldb
in Orion? I'd like to bind it to DefaultDS so that I can ditch hsqldb,
but I'm not sure how to do this.

I believe that all that needs to be done is to copy pgjdbc2.jar to
"${JBOSS_HOME}/lib/­ext and the postgres-service.xm­l from the cvs tree
to the server/default/depl­oy directory (for the sake of simplicity)
but this doesn't work at all --- attempting to deploy my ".ear" file
results in multiple exceptions, and from the stack trace this is
because nothing is bound to DefaultDS....

Any help or advice on this would be greatly appreciated --- I'm
finding it hard to get going with JBoss, even though it appears to
have a good reputation amongst those that I've spoken to about it.

Regards,

Simon

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Peter Fagerlund 16 April 2002 01:29:04 permanent link ]
 on 15-04-2 17.16, Simon Stewart at sms@lateral.net wrote:
How do I get to use Postgres as the backend database instead of hsqldb> in Orion? I'd like to bind it to DefaultDS so that I can ditch hsqldb,> but I'm not sure how to do this.>
I believe that all that needs to be done is to copy pgjdbc2.jar to> "${JBOSS_HOME}/lib/­ext and the postgres-service.xm­l from the cvs tree> to the server/default/depl­oy directory (for the sake of simplicity)> but this doesn't work at all --- attempting to deploy my ".ear" file> results in multiple exceptions, and from the stack trace this is> because nothing is bound to DefaultDS....>
Any help or advice on this would be greatly appreciated --- I'm> finding it hard to get going with JBoss, even though it appears to> have a good reputation amongst those that I've spoken to about it.

What versions are You running ? ... usually - IT JUST WORKSÂ
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James Parsons 4 September 2002 23:22:30 permanent link ]
 This is probably a very simple question for the group.but here's goes.
Please keep in mind I'm just a beginner.

I have the following file and I would like to add the lines in the file
and get a total with a floating $ sign.

fileA.

00000010
00000032
00000043
00000032
00000014
00000042
00000039
00003103
00230004
0014595h


Thanks

James Parsons
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David 4 September 2002 23:30:07 permanent link ]
 what you can do is open the file, read it line by line and add it to a
total:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

#-- our total
my $total = 0;

#-- try open the file. if we can't, print the reason
open(FILE,"fileA") || die $!;

#-- read the file line by line and add it to $total.
#-- normally, when you read from a file, the line will
#-- contains a newline character at the end and you will
#-- want to remove it with the chop or chomp function.
#-- in your case, it isn't neccessary so i have avoid it.
$total += $_ while(<FILE>);

#-- finished. close the file
close(FILE);

#-- print the total with a $ sign
print "\$$total\n";

__END__

i notice that you have the line "0014595h" in
your file. this will cause Perl(with the -w thingy)
to issue a warning when we are executing the "$total += $_"
line. the above simply ignore that and turns "0014595h" into "14595"

david

James Parsons wrote:
This is probably a very simple question for the group.but here's goes.> Please keep in mind I'm just a beginner.>
I have the following file and I would like to add the lines in the file> and get a total with a floating $ sign.>
fileA.>
00000010> 00000032> 00000043> 00000032> 00000014> 00000042> 00000039> 00003103> 00230004> 0014595h>
Thanks>
James Parsons
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William C Jones 9 October 2002 20:37:25 permanent link ]
 
I was trying to delete all versions and start fresh with 1.3.27.>
Can anyone help?


As root, using rpm, frorce the removal of all dependent s/w - then reinstall
Apache, et al...

Then try, as root, execute -

updatedb


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Chia 10 October 2002 10:05:41 permanent link ]
 how about on a solaris 8 box??

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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:02 PM
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The rpm delete worked great, but I also have Apache 2 installed by source. I
deleted the directory /usr/local/apache2 in KDE, but when I run "locate
apache2" it still shows up. (it's gone in KDE though)

Scott


On Wednesday 09 October 2002 5:37 pm, William C (Bill) Jones wrote:> > I was trying to delete all versions and start fresh with 1.3.27.> >
Can anyone help?>
As root, using rpm, frorce the removal of all dependent s/w - then> reinstall Apache, et al...>
Then try, as root, execute ->
updatedb>
Cheers!> -Bill- :]> _Sx________________­____> ('> iudicium ferat> //\ Have Computer -> v_/_ Will Hack...>
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Scott Taylor 10 October 2002 11:01:39 permanent link ]
 The rpm delete worked great, but I also have Apache 2 installed by source. I
deleted the directory /usr/local/apache2 in KDE, but when I run "locate
apache2" it still shows up. (it's gone in KDE though)

Scott


On Wednesday 09 October 2002 5:37 pm, William C (Bill) Jones wrote:> > I was trying to delete all versions and start fresh with 1.3.27.> >
Can anyone help?>
As root, using rpm, frorce the removal of all dependent s/w - then> reinstall Apache, et al...>
Then try, as root, execute ->
updatedb>
Cheers!> -Bill- :]> _Sx________________­____> ('> iudicium ferat> //\ Have Computer -> v_/_ Will Hack...>
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Ilyas 2 April 2003 11:49:30 permanent link ]
 Hi all

I downloaded the oscommerce online shop. I have no experience with php. I
installed yesterday php 4.3.

Just my question: I get this error if I call the startpage of this shop:

Warning: Unknown(): Your script possibly relies on a session side-effect
which existed until PHP 4.2.3. Please be advised that the session extension
does not consider global variables as a source of data, unless
register_globals is enabled. You can disable this functionality and this
warning by setting session.bug_compat_­42 or session.bug_compat_­warn to off,
respectively. in Unknown on line 0


Thanks for any information

Ilyas
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Burhan Khalid 2 April 2003 12:04:09 permanent link ]
 Ilyas wrote:> Hi all>
I downloaded the oscommerce online shop. I have no experience with php. > I installed yesterday php 4.3.>
Just my question: I get this error if I call the startpage of this shop:>
Warning: Unknown(): Your script possibly relies on a session side-effect > which existed until PHP 4.2.3. Please be advised that the session > extension does not consider global variables as a source of data, unless > register_globals is enabled. You can disable this functionality and this > warning by setting session.bug_compat_­42 or session.bug_compat_­warn to > off, respectively. in Unknown on line 0

You have two options :

1. turn off warnings
2. edit the php.ini settings as it states "by setting ..."

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Skate 2 April 2003 12:37:53 permanent link ]
 could this not also be solved by switching register_globals as on? reading
through the error, it looks like that's what it's complaining about. there
is security risks to turning this on, which is probably why it doesn't
suggest doing it, but depends how secure you need your site to be? and also
how much you want to check the security and patch it up if necessary?

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Subject: Re: [PHP] Newbie

Ilyas wrote:> > Hi all> >
I downloaded the oscommerce online shop. I have no experience with php.> > I installed yesterday php 4.3.> >
Just my question: I get this error if I call the startpage of this shop:> >
Warning: Unknown(): Your script possibly relies on a session side-effect> > which existed until PHP 4.2.3. Please be advised that the session> > extension does not consider global variables as a source of data, unless> > register_globals is enabled. You can disable this functionality and this> > warning by setting session.bug_compat_­42 or session.bug_compat_­warn to> > off, respectively. in Unknown on line 0>
You have two options :>
1. turn off warnings> 2. edit the php.ini settings as it states "by setting ...">
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Rod MASTAR 22 April 2003 04:54:48 permanent link ]
 I choose 'General' so I hope I at the right forumn fo a newbie question

I am looking into the php direction right now because its well support open
source and free... and its time to add dbf to my web app. I think MySql is
free too or the same and the 2 make a good pair for a newbie.. I am
confussed how to get started.. My Host does supports PHP windows and not
Unix..

I can read and hack at the php code making things work or others scripts...
also I am very familar with DOS dbase.. I been reading, but how do I get
php installed and configured, working on my WIN98 and MySql on my Host
server easlier.. Having Php on my computer kind of means to me I can write
and test code without actually loading on my server to test..

Has anyone heard of WebMaster
http://webmaster.we­bcentric1.com/reg/re­gister_how_it_works.­php
This software seem to install PHP & MySQL setup tables and has some
training.. Sent email to them so far with no response before I spend $200

Does anyone have or know of another software that does the same or makes
setup easier.. or guide me the right direction to get this done..

Appreciate

Rod





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Vinay 1 May 2003 21:19:35 permanent link ]
 I am a newbie to PostGRESQL, I have been using MySQL all these days. PostGRESQL seems lot confusing for me. I have installed MySQL on windows 2000, unix and suse linux7.3 and never had any difficulty in the installation process.

Can anyone help me find a neat documentation on Insllating PostGRESQL on Windows , Linux and Unix Platforms,

Thank for your help
regards
vinay
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Tim Ellis 1 May 2003 23:27:36 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 11:19, Vinay wrote:> Can anyone help me find a neat documentation on Insllating PostGRESQL> on Windows , Linux and Unix Platforms,

A quick look on postgres.org yielded me this:
http://postgres.org­/users-lounge/docs/7­.3/postgres/

That's the online version. You can also download a .tar.gz with all that
documentation to store locally on your machine.

Notice in the table of contents, an entire section for installation on
Windows.

Cygwin comes with PostgreSQL included as a package, so you could just
install Cygwin and have 99% of the installation work done for you.
Cygwin is a Redhat product that is free-of-charge.

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David Blomstrom 8 June 2003 02:18:27 permanent link ]
 Hi, I'd like to learn about Apache, PHP and MySQL. I'm pretty clueless
about all three and would like to ask some really basic questions about
Apache before I take the plunge.

My primary interest is in designing webpages. I'd also like to be able to
lease a dedicated server some day. My operating system is Windows XP. I
have Linx Redhat installed on another hard drive, but I haven't learned how
to use it yet.

I downloaded a pre-configured package including Apache, PHP and MySQL
("firepages phpdev") from
http://www.hotscrip­ts.com/PHP/Software_­and_Servers/Installa­tion_Kits/ , but
I haven't installed it yet. Before I do, I need a better understanding of
this stuff - and I don't even have a clear understanding of what a server is.

So here are my questions: If I install Apache server software, will it
replace the IIS server that comes with Microsoft XP, or will I have two
servers that I can choose between? How much damage could I do if I make a
mistake while installing it? I wondered if I might not be able to preview
my webpages if I make a mistake installing Apache.

I browsed a tutorial that described installing Apache on an E drive. I have
an external hard drive that I use for backing up my files. Can I install
Apache, PHP and MySQL on that drive, then choose between previewing my
webpages on my C drive (ISS) and previewing them on the external drive (ISS)?

Eventually, I'd like to install Apache on my Linux drive - after I find the
time to learn how to use Linux.

Finally, I read this: "The base Apache Web server package does not include
support for Java, Java Server Pages, Enterprise Java Beans, or Java
servlets. Those features are available as add-ons from the Apache/Java
project site, <URL:http://jakarta­.apache.org/>."

Does that mean that when I preview my pages, JavaScript functions - like
the sortable tables at
http://www.geobop.c­om/world/na/topics/h­istory/statehood/ - won't work,
unless I install some add-ons?

Thanks.



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Joshua Slive 9 June 2003 05:24:44 permanent link ]
 
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, David Blomstrom wrote:> So here are my questions: If I install Apache server software, will it> replace the IIS server that comes with Microsoft XP, or will I have two> servers that I can choose between? How much damage could I do if I make a> mistake while installing it? I wondered if I might not be able to preview> my webpages if I make a mistake installing Apache.

You can install both servers with no problem. But only one server can
listen to each IP-Address/Port combination. So if you want to run them
both at the same time, you'll need to set one of them to a non-standard
port. (In apache, you can do this with the Listen directive.)
I browsed a tutorial that described installing Apache on an E drive. I have> an external hard drive that I use for backing up my files. Can I install> Apache, PHP and MySQL on that drive, then choose between previewing my> webpages on my C drive (ISS) and previewing them on the external drive (ISS)?

If you are comfortable starting/shutting down IIS and changing the port
number that IIS listens to, then you should have no problem. Which drive
things are installed on is irrelevant.
Finally, I read this: "The base Apache Web server package does not include> support for Java, Java Server Pages, Enterprise Java Beans, or Java> servlets. Those features are available as add-ons from the Apache/Java> project site, <URL:http://jakarta­.apache.org/>.">
Does that mean that when I preview my pages, JavaScript functions - like> the sortable tables at> http://www.geobop.c­om/world/na/topics/h­istory/statehood/ - won't work,> unless I install some add-ons?

The quote refers to server-side java. Client-side javascipt is executed
entirely by the browser, and no webserver support is necessary. (I
haven't checked that link, but I'm assuming it is client-side javascript.)

Joshua.

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David Blomstrom 10 June 2003 00:32:01 permanent link ]
 I asked, "If I install Apache server software, will it replace the IIS
server that comes with Microsoft XP, or will I have two servers that I can
choose between? How much damage could I do if I make a mistake while
installing it? I wondered if I might not be able to preview my webpages if
I make a mistake installing Apache."

Joshua replied, "You can install both servers with no problem. But only
one server can listen to each IP-Address/Port combination. So if you want
to run them both at the same time, you'll need to set one of them to a
non-standard port. (In apache, you can do this with the Listen directive.)"

Thanks for the feedback; it helps a lot, though I'm not sure what you mean
by running both servers at the same time. Do servers run in the background
automatically, similar to anti-virus software? Or do they only run when
you're previewing webpages?

If they run automatically, then IIS is running on my computer right now,
and if I download and install Apache on Drive C, it will start running
automatically, too - right?

So the next step is to set either Apache or IIS to a non-standard port? And
if I screw something up or can't figure out how to use Apache, I'd just
remove Apache from my hard drive, and IIS would kick in again?

Finally, if I had both servers running at once, and I wanted to preview a
web page (I use both Dreamweaver and FrontPage), would I then choose which
server I want to use to preview the page?

Thanks.



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Joshua Slive 10 June 2003 00:39:58 permanent link ]
 
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, David Blomstrom wrote:> Thanks for the feedback; it helps a lot, though I'm not sure what you mean> by running both servers at the same time. Do servers run in the background> automatically, similar to anti-virus software? Or do they only run when> you're previewing webpages?

Yes, they usually run in the background as a "Windows Service". (Although
apache can be run from the command line; see the docs on using apache
under windows.)
If they run automatically, then IIS is running on my computer right now,> and if I download and install Apache on Drive C, it will start running> automatically, too - right?>
So the next step is to set either Apache or IIS to a non-standard port? And> if I screw something up or can't figure out how to use Apache, I'd just> remove Apache from my hard drive, and IIS would kick in again?

Something like that. But are you sure IIS is even running? When you test
webpages, do you see http://... in the URL bar or do you see file://...
If it is the latter, you aren't using a server at all.
Finally, if I had both servers running at once, and I wanted to preview a> web page (I use both Dreamweaver and FrontPage), would I then choose which> server I want to use to preview the page?

One of them needs to run on a non-standard port, which you would then need
to include in your url, as in http://yourcomputer­.example.com:8080/ where
8080 is the port.

No offense intended, but you seem to be lacking some basic knowledge about
both your OS and how the web works. If you feel like playing, then go for
it, and you'll figure things out. But you might be better off heading
down to the store and buying a couple good books on IIS and Apache to get
you started. You'd probably save yourself alot of time.

Joshua.

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David Blomstrom 10 June 2003 00:56:13 permanent link ]
 At 05:39 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Something like that. But are you sure IIS is even running? When you test>webpages, do you see http://... in the URL bar or do you see file://...>If it is the latter, you aren't using a server at all.

I see "file://..."
Finally, if I had both servers running at once, and I wanted to preview a> > web page (I use both Dreamweaver and FrontPage), would I then choose which> > server I want to use to preview the page?>
One of them needs to run on a non-standard port, which you would then need>to include in your url, as in http://yourcomputer­.example.com:8080/ where>8080 is the port.>
"No offense intended, but you seem to be lacking some basic knowledge about>both your OS and how the web works. If you feel like playing, then go for>it, and you'll figure things out. But you might be better off heading>down to the store and buying a couple good books on IIS and Apache to get>you started. You'd probably save yourself alot of time."

No offense taken. I've devoted most of my time to researching and writing
content, rather than learning the technical aspects of web design. I'm
stuck on a Windows platform and used Microsoft FrontPage for webpage
design, until I realized I was digging myself into a rut.

I'm now using Dreamweaver, and I've been trying to learn what I need to
know to start using some other things - Linux, Apache, etc., but I find it
extremely confusing. I generally prefer good online tutorials to books, but
if IIS/Apache books are the best resources available, I'll give it a shot.

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Joshua Slive 10 June 2003 01:06:02 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, David Blomstrom wrote:> I see "file://..."

Then you aren't use a server at all. Your browser is accessing the files
directly through the filesystem.
I'm now using Dreamweaver, and I've been trying to learn what I need to> know to start using some other things - Linux, Apache, etc., but I find it> extremely confusing. I generally prefer good online tutorials to books, but> if IIS/Apache books are the best resources available, I'll give it a shot.

There is tons of online stuff, but most of it assumes that you have a
moderate level of knowledge about both your OS and the web. Some books
are better at starting from the beginning.

(In particular, the online docs available for apache on windows are really
only good if you already know both windows and have some familiarity with
web servers.)

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Dominik Rachwal 20 June 2003 04:44:28 permanent link ]
 Hi all,
I just wondering how can I process my access log for statistics on the
server usage. I would like to know if possible how many visits I get a
day, what files are viewed most often. If I'm asking the question to the
wrong forum please direct my to some source for this information. I used
IIS till now, but would like to start using Appache from now on.

TIA

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John Hicks 5 October 2003 20:28:57 permanent link ]
 Hi list,

I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book that said create a
phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> ) file and place it in my Apache 2 htdocs
file. I did this and when I run it opens in a blank page of DreamweaverMX.

I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does nothing.

My question is what file would tell it to open in DWMX or how do I get to
the opening set-up page of PHP.

I used php4.3.3-installer.­exe but I got the message that it would have to be
installed manually.

Any help or direction would be appreciated.

John H.

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Shadow 5 October 2003 20:41:47 permanent link ]
 The file should be saved in the webserver root.............yo­u didn't
mention whether or not you still have IIS installed, but if you do, you need
to uninstall it. You cant run both apache and IIS on the same port.
Regard Dreamweaver........­.....you can open in DW and use the Open With
option for IE...unless you are previewing with DW.
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Mike Brum 5 October 2003 20:42:32 permanent link ]
 Did you try to browse to it on your machine such as:

http://localhost/ph­pinfo.php

This is what they're referring to. PHP doesn't interpret pages when you just
double-click on them since they're not being run through the web server
(Apache) which will trigger PHP to parse the file.

-M

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Hi list,

I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book that said create a
phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> ) file and place it in my Apache 2 htdocs
file. I did this and when I run it opens in a blank page of DreamweaverMX.

I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does nothing.

My question is what file would tell it to open in DWMX or how do I get to
the opening set-up page of PHP.

I used php4.3.3-installer.­exe but I got the message that it would have to be
installed manually.

Any help or direction would be appreciated.

John H.

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Chris Shiflett 5 October 2003 20:43:15 permanent link ]
 --- John Hicks <jhicks03@worldnet.­att.net> wrote:> I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book that said create> a phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> ) file and place it in my Apache 2> htdocs file.

So you installed both Apache and PHP?

The first thing you need to do is figure out what your document root is (it is
on your filesystem) and what the corresponding URL is.
I did this and when I run it opens in a blank page of DreamweaverMX.

Dreamweaver is an editor, right? It might have some libraries that make it
perform some Web browser rendering and such, but it is much better to test in a
real Web browser (not IE).
I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does nothing.

View source. Do you see your code? If so, you need to configure Apache to parse
PHP files.

Hope that helps.

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Marek Kilimajer 5 October 2003 20:45:05 permanent link ]
 Try http://localhost/ph­pinfo.php

apache serves http requests, you tried opening the file from filesystem.

John Hicks wrote:> Hi list,>
I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book that said create a> phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> ) file and place it in my Apache 2 htdocs> file. I did this and when I run it opens in a blank page of DreamweaverMX.>
I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does nothing.>
My question is what file would tell it to open in DWMX or how do I get to> the opening set-up page of PHP.>
I used php4.3.3-installer.­exe but I got the message that it would have to be> installed manually.>
Any help or direction would be appreciated.>
John H.>

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Burhan Khalid 6 October 2003 13:19:57 permanent link ]
 John Hicks wrote:
Hi list,>
I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book that said create a> phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> ) file and place it in my Apache 2 htdocs> file. I did this and when I run it opens in a blank page of DreamweaverMX.>
I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does nothing.

First thing to check, is Apache running? If you are on Windows XP or
2000, Apache2 installs as a service (you should see an icon in your task
bar -- where the clock is).

If you are also using IIS, stop IIS first. By default IIS and Apache
both run on port 80, so if one is running, the other won't start.

To find out if IIS is running, you can follow the following steps :

Start --> Run --> services.msc [enter]

This will pull up a list of services running on your system, where you
can check the status of Apache and IIS.
My question is what file would tell it to open in DWMX or how do I get to> the opening set-up page of PHP.

By default, when you install Dreamweaver, it associates itself with
files that it can edit (these include .php files). So, when you are
double clicking the file in Windows, you are asking Windows to execute
the default action for that file, which is to open it with dreamwever
(the registered editor for that file type).

In order to view the file itself, you will have to access it via the
browser. You can do this by typing in the URL to your webserver (usually
http://localhost/).­ This is also a good way to check if your webserver
is running or not.
I used php4.3.3-installer.­exe but I got the message that it would have to be> installed manually.

This tells me that you are NOT running IIS because the Windows installer
sets up PHP for IIS automatically, but it doesn't for Apache.

I have a tutorial that might help you out. You can find it at my website
(in the signature). Here is the direct link :

http://www.meidomus­.com/node/view/3

Post a comment there, or you can email me if you have another question. :)­


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Burhan Khalid 6 October 2003 14:50:57 permanent link ]
 Wang Feng wrote:
To find out if IIS is running, you can follow the following steps :>>Start --> Run --> services.msc [enter]>>This will pull up a list of services running on your system, where you>>can check the status of Apache and IIS.>
Where did you *learn* the services.msc command? How and where can I know> these kind of commands and Windows internal stuff? Please advise.

Well, I don't remember to be honest. I know that .msc is the extension
for "Microsoft Console". These are all the snap-ins that are available
to the mmc (Microsoft Management Console).
I have a tutorial that might help you out. You can find it at my website>>(in the signature). Here is the direct link :>>
Post a comment there, or you can email me if you have another question. :)­>
Very nice web site! I like it.

Thanks
I'm so curious: do you code html yourself for the whole web site OR do you> use any tool like Dreamweaver or Frontpage?

No, the HTML is done without the use of a wysiwyg editor.
Do you host the web site your self or pay for the hosting company?

I pay to have it hosted.
In addititon to PHP, JavaScript and MySQL, what other technologies do you> use to create the web site?

Drupal (which provides a OOP backend)
http://www.drupal.o­rg
I used drupal as a framework and then expanded on that to build some
modules.

Fireworks (minor image manipulation)
http://www.macromed­ia.com/products/fire­works

CSS for layout
http://www.w3.org/S­tyle/CSS
http://glish.com/cs­s

Email me off list if you have any other questions :)­


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John Hicks 6 October 2003 19:35:43 permanent link ]
 Hi John--

Your name caught my eye, so I had to reply!

Unfortunately I run PHP on Linux so can't be sure about
your situation with Windex.

But I think your problem is that you are opening your
phpinfo.php file from your local file system. You
should instead open it through your webserver. (i.e.
enter your local domain name or IP address into your
browser).

To explain: phpinfo() is a PHP function that simply
lists a lot of useful information about your PHP
setup. But for it to be invoked, it must be run
through the PHP interpreter. If you open it via your
local file system, you bypass PHP. (When you installed
Dreamweaver, it probably configured Winduhs to invoke
DW whenever you open a .php file locally.)

Hope this helps.

Regards,

(Another) John Hicks


On Sunday 05 October 2003 01:28 pm, John Hicks wrote:> Hi list,>
I have just installed PHP4.3.3-Win32. I have a book> that said create a phpinfo.php ( <? phpinfo(); ?> )> file and place it in my Apache 2 htdocs file. I did> this and when I run it opens in a blank page of> DreamweaverMX.>
I tried to "open with" Internet Explorer and it does> nothing.>
My question is what file would tell it to open in> DWMX or how do I get to the opening set-up page of> PHP.>
I used php4.3.3-installer.­exe but I got the message> that it would have to be installed manually.>
Any help or direction would be appreciated.>
John H.

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Greg Luce 27 October 2003 21:26:06 permanent link ]
 Anyone have any sources to learn about FarCry? I've done the setup now
and can browse the admin and my test site, but don't know where to go
from here. Someone sent me some PDF walkthroughs that are a little
high-end for me. I need to know how to integrate this with a simple
site. For some reason I can't hit the farcry site very often. I
connected to it Friday, but haven't been able to all day today. I'm on a
T1 so I don't know what could be wrong. Anyone have a sample site they
can send or something to get me started? I need to have some ammo soon
to sell my bosses on using Farcry for our next project.

Greg


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Greg Luce 27 October 2003 22:58:46 permanent link ]
 Hey Tom, I created a mapping in IIS to aura and try to hit
http://127.0.0.1/au­ra/ and I get an error in a core cfc:
Error Executing Database Query.
Data source not found.

The error occurred in
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\­applications\farcry_­core\packages\farcry­\config.cfc:
line 42

Any ideas why?

Greg

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Anyone have any sources to learn about FarCry? I've done the>setup now and can browse the admin and my test site, but don't >know where to go from here.

Hi Greg,

I'm glad to see that your Farcry site is up and running. Have you looked
at "Farcry_aura". Farcry_aura is a boilerplate for a basic Farcry site.
Have a look at the source files under farcry_aura. In the source you can
see how tags and objects are implemented. Under "farcry_aura/webski­n"
you can view the templates(display methods) for each object type.

One exercise I found useful was to follow a page request from start to
finish in the code. Start at "farcry_aura/www/in­dex.cfm" and follow the
code. At first it's a bit confusing but the more you do it the more it
makes sense. After a short while you'll be surprised at how much you've
learned. It's a great way to understand the interactions between your
Farcry site and the Farcry Core.

I'd start by simply looking at farcry_aura. I suspect the "How To's"
will make a bit more sense after you understand the structure of a basic
Farcry App.


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Tom Cornilliac 27 October 2003 23:09:52 permanent link ]
 
Anyone have any sources to learn about FarCry? I've done the >setup now and can browse the admin and my test site, but don't >know where to go from here.

Hi Greg,

I'm glad to see that your Farcry site is up and running. Have you looked at
"Farcry_aura". Farcry_aura is a boilerplate for a basic Farcry site. Have a
look at the source files under farcry_aura. In the source you can see how
tags and objects are implemented. Under "farcry_aura/webski­n" you can view
the templates(display methods) for each object type.

One exercise I found useful was to follow a page request from start to
finish in the code. Start at "farcry_aura/www/in­dex.cfm" and follow the
code. At first it's a bit confusing but the more you do it the more it makes
sense. After a short while you'll be surprised at how much you've learned.
It's a great way to understand the interactions between your Farcry site and
the Farcry Core.

I'd start by simply looking at farcry_aura. I suspect the "How To's" will
make a bit more sense after you understand the structure of a basic Farcry
App.


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Tom Cornilliac 28 October 2003 00:15:18 permanent link ]
 
Hey Tom, I created a mapping in IIS to aura and try to hit >http://127.0.0.1/a­ura/ and I get an error in a core cfc: Error >Executing Database Query. >Data source not found. >
The error occurred in>C:\Inetpub\wwwro­ot\applications\farc­ry_core\packages\far­cry\config.cfc:>line­ 42>
Any ideas why?

Yes. Have a look at "farcry_aura\config­\_serverSpecificVars­.cfm". You need
to set "application.dsn" & "application.dbowne­r".

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Brendan Sisson 28 October 2003 01:19:05 permanent link ]
 Greg Luce wrote:> Hey Tom, I created a mapping in IIS to aura and try to hit> http://127.0.0.1/au­ra/ and I get an error in a core cfc:> Error Executing Database Query. > Data source not found. >
The error occurred in> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\­applications\farcry_­core\packages\farcry­\config.cfc:> line 42>
Any ideas why?


A copy of Aura is made when you do a full install, so your test site is
actually an Aura site. You won't need to make a second mapping to Aura,
just use your test site. If you want another site, you will need to do
another install. You can run multiple farcry sites on the same server,
check out some of the previous posts on the list for discussions on how
to go about this.

As far as gettings started goes, do you have the administrator and
conrtibutor guides?

http://farcry.daemo­n.com.au/go/document­ation/users

http://farcry.daemo­n.com.au/go/document­ation/developers/adm­in-guide

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Geoff Bowers 28 October 2003 01:26:05 permanent link ]
 Greg Luce wrote:> For some reason I can't hit the farcry site very often. I> connected to it Friday, but haven't been able to all day today. I'm on a> T1 so I don't know what could be wrong. Anyone have a sample site they> can send or something to get me started? I need to have some ammo soon> to sell my bosses on using Farcry for our next project.

Greg I saw you mention this on CF-TALK. It's got me a little worried :|­

I've checked the logs -- the server has no recent outages, and traffic
on the site has been pretty constant. When you say you can't get access
to the web site, what is the exact error message you get?

When you are experiencing an outage can you still resolve the domain
name to an IP address? I am wondering if it is a DNS issue.

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Trent Shepherd 28 October 2003 02:06:16 permanent link ]
 Geoff,
FYI
In the past couple of weeks I have had trouble getting onto the farcry site
at times as well.

Cheers

trent


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Greg Luce wrote:> For some reason I can't hit the farcry site very often. I> connected to it Friday, but haven't been able to all day today. I'm on a> T1 so I don't know what could be wrong. Anyone have a sample site they> can send or something to get me started? I need to have some ammo soon> to sell my bosses on using Farcry for our next project.

Greg I saw you mention this on CF-TALK. It's got me a little worried :|­

I've checked the logs -- the server has no recent outages, and traffic
on the site has been pretty constant. When you say you can't get access
to the web site, what is the exact error message you get?

When you are experiencing an outage can you still resolve the domain
name to an IP address? I am wondering if it is a DNS issue.

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Geoff Bowers 28 October 2003 02:14:41 permanent link ]
 Greg Luce wrote:> Hey Tom, I created a mapping in IIS to aura and try to hit> http://127.0.0.1/au­ra/ and I get an error in a core cfc:> Error Executing Database Query. > Data source not found.

Others have talked around this point... but maybe we're all not
communicating this so well.

When you install, the farcry_aura code base is *only a skeleton* for the
installer. It is not an application in its own right. Basically the
install wizard uses the farcry_aura templates and your config entries in
the wizard to construct a working site for you.

We often refer to the "working site" as the "farcry_project" code base
-- where farcry_project is simply a pseudonym for whatever you decided
to name your project, eg. myApp, whatever.

Hope that helps,

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Greg 28 October 2003 02:21:37 permanent link ]
 I guess I'm getting the point. I've done in the admin and created a
couple pages and menu items. Is this the only way to build a site? Can
you take an existing site and configure Farcry to manage the pages you
want? Also I created a news item and a category, but can't see it in the
site. I see the News menu and the news page I made, but how about the
news content item I created?

TIA,
Greg

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Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Newbie


Greg Luce wrote:> Hey Tom, I created a mapping in IIS to aura and try to hit > http://127.0.0.1/au­ra/ and I get an error in a core cfc: Error > Executing Database Query.> Data source not found.

Others have talked around this point... but maybe we're all not
communicating this so well.

When you install, the farcry_aura code base is *only a skeleton* for the

installer. It is not an application in its own right. Basically the
install wizard uses the farcry_aura templates and your config entries in

the wizard to construct a working site for you.

We often refer to the "working site" as the "farcry_project" code base
-- where farcry_project is simply a pseudonym for whatever you decided
to name your project, eg. myApp, whatever.

Hope that helps,

-- geoff
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Greg 28 October 2003 02:24:49 permanent link ]
 Well, heck! I can hit it now. I believe it was just 404 error. I think
it may be just from work I've had trouble. Maybe from home. But I don't
think there's any "filter" or anything prohibiting me from going to any
sites from work. I can get to astalavista.com with all it's craziness!

Greg

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Greg Luce wrote:> For some reason I can't hit the farcry site very often. I connected to
it Friday, but haven't been able to all day today. I'm on a T1 so I > don't know what could be wrong. Anyone have a sample site they can > send or something to get me started? I need to have some ammo soon to > sell my bosses on using Farcry for our next project.

Greg I saw you mention this on CF-TALK. It's got me a little worried :|­

I've checked the logs -- the server has no recent outages, and traffic
on the site has been pretty constant. When you say you can't get access

to the web site, what is the exact error message you get?

When you are experiencing an outage can you still resolve the domain
name to an IP address? I am wondering if it is a DNS issue.

-- geoff
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Gary Menzel 28 October 2003 02:40:53 permanent link ]
 Hello Greg,

Given that you have installed FarCry and run both the Admin and
Application portions, you should find a complete set of the Aura files
(copied and correctly installed) in the following directory....

C;\Inetpub\wwwroot\­applications\%yourap­pname%

(%yourappname% being the name you gave the FarCry install script)

Given this application is already running, you would be better off using
that for your walkthrough/trace than modifying the FarCry Aura directory
(this is only a skeleton to create applications from - it is NOT an
application itself and should not be modified).

I don't know what the issue is with you not being able to access the
FarCry site at Daemon but this is going to be a critical source of
information for you (aside from this list) as most people will point you
at articles or PDF's on that site.

Having said that, if you are wanting to look at what you can do to "skin"
your application, then you should look at the following:

%yourappname%/websk­in/includes (contains headers and footers that are used
by object templates - the dm* directories - to wrap the content up in HTML
tags)
%yourappname%/packa­ges (this is where you put your own extensions to
FarCry - types, rules, and custom code)
%yourappname%/confi­g (important to understand these files in case you are
having problems running FarCry)
%yourappname%/custo­madmin/customadmin.x­ml (the place where you can add
tabs to the Admin system for your own use)

For working with some essential FarCry objects (such as the navigation
tree and how to display objects) you should look at (BUT NOT MODIFY):
farcry_core/tags/na­vajo/*.*
farcry_core/tags/we­bskin/*.*

In essence, each of the types of objects have corresponding directories in
the %yourappname%/websk­in directory (e.g. dmHTML, dmNews, etc.).

Inside those directories you place your "templates" that objects of that
type can use when you manage them in the Admin tool.

There are some special naming conventions you need to meet here for things
to show up in the Admin tool.

For displaying a page, the name MUST start with "displaypage" and be
followed by whatever you want to call it. In addition, you can place
comments into the file so that a "user friendly" name can be displayed to
the Admin user in the template list for the object. These comments look
like the following (this is from displaypageStandard­.cfm for the dmHTML
type):

<!--- @@displayname: Standard Page --->
<!--- @@author: Geoff Bowers --->

Obviously, in the Admin tool, this will display as "Standard Page".

If you browse most of the "displaypage" style files, you will find that
they generally use a <CFMODULE> call to include a header and a footer and
then dump the content of the object in between these. You can be as
complex or as simple as your like between the "wrappers". You don't have
to do it this way, but it allows you to reuse your "skin" across a number
of different types. These "skins" are usually put in the webskin/includes
directory (but this is only a convention and you can store them wherever
you like).

There are other rules for naming other types of templates (such as
displayTeaser for metadata type displays vs. whole objects).

Once you have a handle on these aspects, the next thing you will probably
want to look at is CONTAINERS.

Containers are created in your skins and templates (not in the Admin
tool). A container is a space on your page that can have content loaded
into it at runtime. You determine what the content is by logging into the
Admin tool, going to the website itself (via View Site in the Admin tool
if necessary) and then use the little gray menu button up in the top left
to SHOW DESIGN (do this on your working site and you should see at least
one little grey marker that denotes the container). To change the content
of the container you click on the container marker and a popup will
present you with options.

I wont go into too much detail about it (it is in the PDF documents from
the site) but here you choose the TYPE of content you want displayed (you
can have more than one type at the same time!) and then you configure the
parameters that select the content from that type. Just have a play with
this.

After that, you start getting into creating your own types and rules
(rules are a mechanism of determining what data should be displayed in
certain situations - e.g. what news should be displayed here).


Hope this brief overview gives you some help until you can get onto the
site and get all the other walkthroughs and PDF's.


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Geoff Bowers 28 October 2003 04:37:52 permanent link ]
 Gary Menzel wrote:> There is no way that I know of to configure FarCry to manage an existing > site (unless it was previously a Spectra site??????? - Daemon guys could > clarify this). Your content is stored in the FarCry database. So unless > you already have a database with the same schema (unlikely) then you are > not able to manage the existing site with FarCry.

Nope. Can't hook into Spectra! But it's very easy to migrate the
Spectra COAPI to the FarCry COAPI. (We've done this for many sites
already).

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Tim Lucas 28 October 2003 05:16:41 permanent link ]
 
Can you take an existing site and configure Farcry to manage the pages you>want? >
Everybody else says no... but it is possible if you think you're a
hot-shot cf'er. Have a look at the code for the Quick Site Builder tool
(core/admin/quickBu­ilder.cfm line 173)... If you copy this and customise
it to your needs, you should be able to write some CF that goes through
your current site and recreates the structure and text in your FarCry
app. You could only really do this if you've got your stuff in a DB
already (or if you've used DW templates and know where to pull the
content from). You'd still have to manually fix up images, files, etc
(unless you write your script to do those too). You'd also have to
manually fix up the look and feel, css and what-not...

Unless you have a really big site then it's probably better just to
copy-paste to ensure everthing is a-ok.

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Gary Menzel 28 October 2003 05:38:58 permanent link ]
 
Everybody else says no...

Managing an existing site and porting an existing site........

They'd be two different things ;)


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Tim Lucas 28 October 2003 05:51:57 permanent link ]
 
Managing an existing site and porting an existing site........>
They'd be two different things ;)>
oops... oh well, it was a good idea anyway.. lol

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Gary Menzel 28 October 2003 06:24:23 permanent link ]
 
oops... oh well, it was a good idea anyway.. lol

It actually IS a good idea. It would be nice to have some tools that
could easily be extended/modified to convert existing sites over to
FarCry.

I think you would need something like Dreamweaver "template"/"library­"
tags in your site though (in the case of static HTML - or even poorly
written CFM) for the tool to work with so it could extract stuff.

I just dont have a need (or the time) for it at the moment - fun project
though.

If we made it into a WYSISWYG (what you see is SORTA what you get) tool
and allowed people to view their page in "edit" mode in IE and place
markers into the page that could be picked up by this tool - that would be
excellent!


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Tim Lucas 28 October 2003 07:07:49 permanent link ]
 Sounds like a great idea.

First I think we need to set up a SOAP interface to the admin system
(not my kettle of fish).

Then, my bet would be to use mozilla (XUL) for the interface cause you
have SOAP and WYSIWYG. I think flash would be a nightmare...

Sounds like a project for my summer break... would have to learn XUL,
but i've read a fair bit on it and I don't think there'd be much of a
problem.

Also, a bit of thought would have to go into the design of the SOAP
interface, so in the future it could be extended to do other/all Farcry
admin tasks.

- tim

Gary Menzel spoke the following wise words on 28/10/2003 2:24 PM EST:
It actually IS a good idea. It would be nice to have some tools that >could easily be extended/modified to convert existing sites over to >FarCry.>
I think you would need something like Dreamweaver "template"/"library­" >tags in your site though (in the case of static HTML - or even poorly >written CFM) for the tool to work with so it could extract stuff.>
I just dont have a need (or the time) for it at the moment - fun project >though.>
If we made it into a WYSISWYG (what you see is SORTA what you get) tool >and allowed people to view their page in "edit" mode in IE and place >markers into the page that could be picked up by this tool - that would be >excellent!>


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Alex Park 20 November 2003 01:50:04 permanent link ]
 We also have a problem with farcry site.. I can only get the pages to load
after 1:00pm Pacific Time
For example today, I could not get to newsgroup or farcry site but now I
able to ???
We are located in California
Alex

"Geoff Bowers" <modius-B94p6s+3n+c­pAS55Wn97og@public.g­mane.org> wrote in message
news:35386-UXGANdcw­ZUhcmZkdalAc4Q@publi­c.gmane.org>
Greg Luce wrote:> > For some reason I can't hit the farcry site very often. I> > connected to it Friday, but haven't been able to all day today. I'm on a> > T1 so I don't know what could be wrong. Anyone have a sample site they> > can send or something to get me started? I need to have some ammo soon> > to sell my bosses on using Farcry for our next project.>
Greg I saw you mention this on CF-TALK. It's got me a little worried :|­>
I've checked the logs -- the server has no recent outages, and traffic> on the site has been pretty constant. When you say you can't get access> to the web site, what is the exact error message you get?>
When you are experiencing an outage can you still resolve the domain> name to an IP address? I am wondering if it is a DNS issue.>



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João Figueira 22 January 2004 22:13:15 permanent link ]
 Well, I'm a newbie. Just got started in Perl and was stunned by its power.
The thing is i'm running the scripts in WinXP. Can you tell how to use CGI
scripts in XP, because if ai try to set a CGI script as ACTION in a forme it
just gets read and doesn't execute.
I've heard about the bat wrapping, but i really wanted to use the scripts as
they are.

Thanks.
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Chuck Fox 22 January 2004 22:21:34 permanent link ]
 jfigueira@netmadeira­.com wrote:
Well, I'm a newbie. Just got started in Perl and was stunned by its power.>
The thing is i'm running the scripts in WinXP. Can you tell how to use CGI>scripts in XP, because if ai try to set a CGI script as ACTION in a forme it>just gets read and doesn't execute.>
I've heard about the bat wrapping, but i really wanted to use the scripts as>they are.>
Thanks.>
Sounds like you might need to associate the extension .cgi with the perl
interpreter. Open an explorer window and go to Tools->Folder Options.
On the dialog that pops up pick the tab labeled, File Types. More than
likely, you will want to create a new association between .cgi and perl.

HTH,

Your Friendly Neighborhood DBA,

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Dan Muey 22 January 2004 22:24:22 permanent link ]
 
Well, I'm a newbie. Just got started in Perl and was stunned > by its power.>
The thing is i'm running the scripts in WinXP. Can you tell > how to use CGI scripts in XP, because if ai try to set a CGI > script as ACTION in a forme it just gets read and doesn't execute.

I'm assuming you are talking about an html form and not a Tk or
some other type of form correct?

Usually to serve a script the same way as you would on a web server
your computer needs to know how to handle the request.
This involves running a web server locally, like apache.

I run apache on my G4 PowerBook and can have an html form, say
at :http://localhost/f­orm.html and have it submitted to
cgi-bin/formhandler­.plx

What is even better is to have the script generate the form and handle the form.

Another tip for you since you say you are a newbie and you are tryin gto handle html forms"
Don't use formmail from matt's script archive, it is super insecure and a spam machine.

HTH

Dmuey
I've heard about the bat wrapping, but i really wanted to use > the scripts as they are.

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Dan Anderson 22 January 2004 22:51:35 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:13, João Figueira wrote:> Well, I'm a newbie. Just got started in Perl and was stunned by its power.> The thing is i'm running the scripts in WinXP. Can you tell how to use CGI> scripts in XP, because if ai try to set a CGI script as ACTION in a forme it> just gets read and doesn't execute.> I've heard about the bat wrapping, but i really wanted to use the scripts as> they are.

Are you using Apache or IIS? Dump IIS for apache if you're using it.

-Dan


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Cameron Ortis 16 February 2004 23:32:26 permanent link ]
 I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an
experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql data
for a research project. The files are:

$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data
$ ls -lh
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm

In mysql I type:

mysql> show databases;
+---------------+
| Database |
+---------------+
| research1data |
| mysql |
+---------------+
mysql> use research1data;
mysql> show tables;
+------------------­-------+
| Tables_in_research1­data |
+------------------­-------+
| oldreports |
+------------------­-------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference manual
or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8 in
addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an
oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been sent
two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for both?

Many thanks for your help,

Cam

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Bing Du 17 February 2004 00:09:14 permanent link ]
 Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' following
the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?

Bing
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an> experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql data> for a research project. The files are:>
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data> $ ls -lh> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm>
In mysql I type:>
mysql> show databases;> +---------------+> | Database |> +---------------+> | research1data |> | mysql |> +---------------+> mysql> use research1data;> mysql> show tables;> +------------------­-------+> | Tables_in_research1­data |> +------------------­-------+> | oldreports |> +------------------­-------+> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)>
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference manual> or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8 in> addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an> oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been sent> two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for both?>
Many thanks for your help,>
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Cameron Ortis 17 February 2004 00:35:25 permanent link ]
 Thanks for the quick reply!

As root, I tried:

mysql> use research1data;
mysql> show tables;
+------------------­-------+
| Tables_in_research1­data |
+------------------­-------+
| oldreports |
+------------------­-------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;

But I got the following error:

ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file
'./research1data/ol­dreport_2002_12_08.f­rm' (Errcode: 13)

I'm SU and root in mysql so I don't thinks it's a permissions problem.
Is my SQL correct?

Cam

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:09, Bing Du wrote:> Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' following> the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?>
Bing>
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an> > experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql data> > for a research project. The files are:> >
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data> > $ ls -lh> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm> >
In mysql I type:> >
mysql> show databases;> > +---------------+> > | Database |> > +---------------+> > | research1data |> > | mysql |> > +---------------+> > mysql> use research1data;> > mysql> show tables;> > +------------------­-------+> > | Tables_in_research1­data |> > +------------------­-------+> > | oldreports |> > +------------------­-------+> > 1 row in set (0.00 sec)> >
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference manual> > or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8 in> > addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an> > oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been sent> > two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for both?> >
Many thanks for your help,> >
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Simon Windsor 17 February 2004 00:46:39 permanent link ]
 Hi

I am not familiar with the syntax

mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;

try

mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports;
to create populated copy

or

mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports where
1=2;
to create an empty copy

I hope this helps

Simon Windsor
Eml: simon.windsor@cornf­ield.org.uk
Tel: 01454 617689
Mob: 07960 321599

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Ortis [mailto:camortis@interchange.ubc.ca]
Sent: 16 February 2004 21:35
To: Bing Du
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.c­om
Subject: Re: Newbie

Thanks for the quick reply!

As root, I tried:

mysql> use research1data;
mysql> show tables;
+------------------­-------+
| Tables_in_research1­data |
+------------------­-------+
| oldreports |
+------------------­-------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;

But I got the following error:

ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file
'./research1data/ol­dreport_2002_12_08.f­rm' (Errcode: 13)

I'm SU and root in mysql so I don't thinks it's a permissions problem.
Is my SQL correct?

Cam

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:09, Bing Du wrote:> Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' following> the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?>
Bing>
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an> > experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql data> > for a research project. The files are:> >
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data> > $ ls -lh> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm> >
In mysql I type:> >
mysql> show databases;> > +---------------+> > | Database |> > +---------------+> > | research1data |> > | mysql |> > +---------------+> > mysql> use research1data;> > mysql> show tables;> > +------------------­-------+> > | Tables_in_research1­data |> > +------------------­-------+> > | oldreports |> > +------------------­-------+> > 1 row in set (0.00 sec)> >
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference manual> > or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8 in> > addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an> > oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been sent> > two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for both?> >
Many thanks for your help,> >
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 Thanks for the response. The syntax:
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports
where 1=2;
wouldn't that just create an empty file? I need to get access to the
data in oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD using oldreports.frm.

$ ls -lh
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm

Cam

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:46, Simon Windsor wrote:> Hi>
I am not familiar with the syntax >
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports;> to create populated copy>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports where> 1=2;> to create an empty copy>
I hope this helps>
Simon Windsor> Eml: simon.windsor@cornf­ield.org.uk> Tel: 01454 617689> Mob: 07960 321599>
-----Original Message-----> From: Cameron Ortis [mailto:camortis@interchange.ubc.ca] > Sent: 16 February 2004 21:35> To: Bing Du> Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.c­om> Subject: Re: Newbie>
Thanks for the quick reply!>
As root, I tried:>
mysql> use research1data;> mysql> show tables;> +------------------­-------+> | Tables_in_research1­data |> +------------------­-------+> | oldreports |> +------------------­-------+> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;>
But I got the following error:>
ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file> './research1data/ol­dreport_2002_12_08.f­rm' (Errcode: 13)>
I'm SU and root in mysql so I don't thinks it's a permissions problem.> Is my SQL correct?>
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:09, Bing Du wrote:> > Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' following> > the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?> >
Bing> >
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an> > > experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql data> > > for a research project. The files are:> > >
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data> > > $ ls -lh> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm> > >
In mysql I type:> > >
mysql> show databases;> > > +---------------+> > > | Database |> > > +---------------+> > > | research1data |> > > | mysql |> > > +---------------+> > > mysql> use research1data;> > > mysql> show tables;> > > +------------------­-------+> > > | Tables_in_research1­data |> > > +------------------­-------+> > > | oldreports |> > > +------------------­-------+> > > 1 row in set (0.00 sec)> > >
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference manual> > > or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8 in> > > addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an> > > oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been sent> > > two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for both?> > >
Many thanks for your help,> > >
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Bing Du 17 February 2004 01:23:39 permanent link ]
 Yes, that would create a new table (only the oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD file
will be zero, the MYI and frm files are not) which has exactly the same
definition of the table oldreports but without any data in it.
So make sure you have a good copy of both oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD and
oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI. Better rename them temporarily to something
else and move them back after table 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' is created.

Bing
Thanks for the response. The syntax:> mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports> where 1=2;> wouldn't that just create an empty file? I need to get access to the> data in oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD using oldreports.frm.>
$ ls -lh> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm>
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:46, Simon Windsor wrote:>> Hi>>
I am not familiar with the syntax>>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;>>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports;>> to create populated copy>>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports>> where>> 1=2;>> to create an empty copy>>
I hope this helps>>
Simon Windsor>> Eml: simon.windsor@cornf­ield.org.uk>> Tel: 01454 617689>> Mob: 07960 321599>>
-----Original Message----->> From: Cameron Ortis [mailto:camortis@interchange.ubc.ca]>> Sent: 16 February 2004 21:35>> To: Bing Du>> Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.c­om>> Subject: Re: Newbie>>
Thanks for the quick reply!>>
As root, I tried:>>
mysql> use research1data;>> mysql> show tables;>> +------------------­-------+>> | Tables_in_research1­data |>> +------------------­-------+>> | oldreports |>> +------------------­-------+>> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)>>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;>>
But I got the following error:>>
ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file>> './research1data/ol­dreport_2002_12_08.f­rm' (Errcode: 13)>>
I'm SU and root in mysql so I don't thinks it's a permissions problem.>> Is my SQL correct?>>
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:09, Bing Du wrote:>> > Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08'>> following>> > the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?>> >
Bing>> >
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an>> > > experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql>> data>> > > for a research project. The files are:>> > >
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data>> > > $ ls -lh>> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD>> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI>> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD>> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI>> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm>> > >
In mysql I type:>> > >
mysql> show databases;>> > > +---------------+>>­ > > | Database |>> > > +---------------+>>­ > > | research1data |>> > > | mysql |>> > > +---------------+>>­ > > mysql> use research1data;>> > > mysql> show tables;>> > > +------------------­-------+>> > > | Tables_in_research1­data |>> > > +------------------­-------+>> > > | oldreports |>> > > +------------------­-------+>> > > 1 row in set (0.00 sec)>> > >
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference>> manual>> > > or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8>> in>> > > addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an>> > > oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been>> sent>> > > two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for>> both?>> > >
Many thanks for your help,>> > >
Additional info:>> > > OS = Freebsd 4.9>> > > MySQL = 4.1.1>> > >
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Cameron Ortis 17 February 2004 02:42:23 permanent link ]
 O.k. I renamed oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD and oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI to
tempo.MYI and tempo.MYD.

Then I ran:
CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports where 1=2;

And now I have:
$ls -lh
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 tempo.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Feb 16 15:37 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 tempo.MYD
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 1K Feb 16 15:37 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI
-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 0B Feb 16 15:37 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD

Now I just have to get the data in tempo.MYI and tempo.MYD into the
newly generated oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI and oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD

Thanks for all your help,

Cam
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On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 14:23, Bing Du wrote:> Yes, that would create a new table (only the oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD file> will be zero, the MYI and frm files are not) which has exactly the same> definition of the table oldreports but without any data in it.> So make sure you have a good copy of both oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD and> oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI. Better rename them temporarily to something> else and move them back after table 'oldreport_2002_12_­08' is created.>
Bing>
Thanks for the response. The syntax:> > mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports> > where 1=2;> > wouldn't that just create an empty file? I need to get access to the> > data in oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD using oldreports.frm.> >
$ ls -lh> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm> >
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:46, Simon Windsor wrote:> >> Hi> >>
I am not familiar with the syntax> >>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;> >>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports;> >> to create populated copy> >>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 as select * from oldreports> >> where> >> 1=2;> >> to create an empty copy> >>
I hope this helps> >>
Simon Windsor> >> Eml: simon.windsor@cornf­ield.org.uk> >> Tel: 01454 617689> >> Mob: 07960 321599> >>
-----Original Message-----> >> From: Cameron Ortis [mailto:camortis@interchange.ubc.ca]> >> Sent: 16 February 2004 21:35> >> To: Bing Du> >> Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.c­om> >> Subject: Re: Newbie> >>
Thanks for the quick reply!> >>
As root, I tried:> >>
mysql> use research1data;> >> mysql> show tables;> >> +------------------­-------+> >> | Tables_in_research1­data |> >> +------------------­-------+> >> | oldreports |> >> +------------------­-------+> >> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)> >>
mysql> CREATE TABLE oldreport_2002_12_0­8 LIKE oldreports;> >>
But I got the following error:> >>
ERROR 1: Can't create/write to file> >> './research1data/ol­dreport_2002_12_08.f­rm' (Errcode: 13)> >>
I'm SU and root in mysql so I don't thinks it's a permissions problem.> >> Is my SQL correct?> >>
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 13:09, Bing Du wrote:> >> > Have you tried creating a table called 'oldreport_2002_12_­08'> >> following> >> > the instructions on http://www.mysql.co­m/doc/en/CREATE_TABL­E.html?> >> >
Bing> >> >
I have spent some time in the past with mysql but am far from an> >> > > experienced database head. A while back I received a some mysql> >> data> >> > > for a research project. The files are:> >> > >
$ cd /usr/local/mysql/re­search1data> >> > > $ ls -lh> >> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 21G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYD> >> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 12G Jun 20 2003 oldreport_2002_12_0­8.MYI> >> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 17G Jun 19 2003 oldreports.MYD> >> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10G Dec 5 19:32 oldreports.MYI> >> > > -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 8K Jun 20 2003 oldreports.frm> >> > >
In mysql I type:> >> > >
mysql> show databases;> >> > > +---------------+> >> > > | Database |> >> > > +---------------+> >> > > | research1data |> >> > > | mysql |> >> > > +---------------+> >> > > mysql> use research1data;> >> > > mysql> show tables;> >> > > +------------------­-------+> >> > > | Tables_in_research1­data |> >> > > +------------------­-------+> >> > > | oldreports |> >> > > +------------------­-------+> >> > > 1 row in set (0.00 sec)> >> > >
I have fumbled around mailing lists, tutorials, and a reference> >> manual> >> > > or two. My newbie questions are: how do I load oldreport_2002_12_0­8> >> in> >> > > addition to oldreports? Do I need to somehow create an> >> > > oldreport_2002_12_0­8.frm file? I assumed that I would have been> >> sent> >> > > two .frm files but ... is there a way to use oldreports.frm for> >> both?> >> > >
Many thanks for your help,> >> > >
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 Hi

I am a newbie in PHP and MySQL. I have developed a web databse using PHP and
MySQL. However , I need more info on these product. Any sites you can
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I am a newbie in PHP and MySQL. I have developed a web databse using PHP and> MySQL. However , I need more info on these product. Any sites you can> recommend.

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Gonzalez Peter 19 February 2005 04:11:08 permanent link ]
 Hi all I've just been nominated to start training for Oracle. I've a
network administrator for 5 years and have managed to keep away from
Oracle...any tips on where I should start. We currently use Oracle 8
and are getting ready to upgrade to version 8.1 or 8i...one of those. I
would like to learn how to implement and setup databases from the
ground up. Any information on what materials to read would greatly be
appriciated.

Thanks,
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Mark Townsend 19 February 2005 04:28:16 permanent link ]
 gonzalez.peter@gmail­.com wrote:> Hi all I've just been nominated to start training for Oracle. I've a> network administrator for 5 years and have managed to keep away from> Oracle...any tips on where I should start. We currently use Oracle 8> and are getting ready to upgrade to version 8.1 or 8i...one of those. I> would like to learn how to implement and setup databases from the> ground up. Any information on what materials to read would greatly be> appriciated.>
Thanks,> Peter>

See the newbie section on OTN. You will need to register but it is free
Forget upgrading to 8i, go straight to 10g, collect $200

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 Thanks, will do!

Peter

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Guest 19 February 2005 08:53:06 permanent link ]
 
gonzalez.peter@gmai­l.com wrote:> Hi all I've just been nominated to start training for Oracle. I've a> network administrator for 5 years and have managed to keep away from> Oracle...any tips on where I should start. We currently use Oracle 8> and are getting ready to upgrade to version 8.1 or 8i...one of those.
would like to learn how to implement and setup databases from the> ground up. Any information on what materials to read would greatly be> appriciated.>
Thanks,> Peter

Hi Peter,
You can go through http://tahiti.oracl­e.com/.It is a free site.I hope
you will get satisfactory outputs.
Regards
Arijit Chatterjee

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Peter 19 February 2005 19:14:51 permanent link ]
 Thanks again!

Peter

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DA Morgan 21 February 2005 02:24:52 permanent link ]
 gonzalez.peter@gmail­.com wrote:
Hi all I've just been nominated to start training for Oracle. I've a> network administrator for 5 years and have managed to keep away from> Oracle...any tips on where I should start. We currently use Oracle 8> and are getting ready to upgrade to version 8.1 or 8i...one of those. I> would like to learn how to implement and setup databases from the> ground up. Any information on what materials to read would greatly be> appriciated.>
Thanks,> Peter

The first thing you should know is that Oracle 8i was deprecated as of
December, two months ago, and you folks ought to be using 10g or, worst
case 9i.

That said go to http://otn.oracle.c­om and get a free download of the
Enterprise Edition of the database so that you can practice the entire
thing on your own machine where you can have full privileges and the
ability to make a huge mess which is the best way to learn.

Finding a mentor in-house would also be a good idea as well as looking
for a local Oracle user group. There is a very close to complete list of
user groups at http://www.psoug.or­g. Click on User Groups.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washingt­on.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)
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Michael Teja via SQLMonster.com 7 March 2005 08:10:30 permanent link ]
 Friends,

I am a newbie in sql programming, I don't know much about the programming.
I 've tried to make a trigger but it failed.

Where can I learn about it and rather free for payments. ( Sorry about that
statement, cause it rather expensive for my revenue)

--
Message posted via http://www.sqlmonst­er.com
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Madhivanan 7 March 2005 10:23:30 permanent link ]
 
Try to learn it in BOL

Madhivanan

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Thomas R. Hummel 7 March 2005 18:25:59 permanent link ]
 In case you are not aware... BOL = Books Online, which is the help that
comes with the SQL Server client utilities. You can also get a lot of
information from Microsoft's website (www.microsoft.com. If you have
specific questions, then you can of course post them here.

-Tom.

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Peter 30 March 2005 08:58:05 permanent link ]
 Hi

What is the best MS newsgroup for a newbie to Frontpage ..?

cheers Peter


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Jens Peter Karlsen 30 March 2005 10:01:59 permanent link ]
 microsoft.public.fro­ntpage.client

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----> From: Peter [mailto:inver@nospam.nz] > Posted At: 30. marts 2005 06:58> Posted To: microsoft.public.fr­ontpage.programming>­ Conversation: Newbie> Subject: Newbie>
What is the best MS newsgroup for a newbie to Frontpage ..?>
cheers Peter >
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Ashfaqur Rahman 5 August 2005 19:48:06 permanent link ]
 Hello everyone

I have just joined the goup. I am a newbie using
Bloodshed Dev-C++.
Can I start posting my probles??

Thanks
Emon


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Mad 16 January 2006 17:55:55 permanent link ]
 Hello everyone, am new to databases. Started of learning SQL on my own
and using SQL Server 2k... any pointers from ya'll abt my approach...
got familiar with some basic stuff abt SQL and SQL Server.. hope all of
you would gimme good suggestions..

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ZeldorBlat 16 January 2006 18:38:27 permanent link ]
 
Mad wrote:> Hello everyone, am new to databases. Started of learning SQL on my own> and using SQL Server 2k... any pointers from ya'll abt my approach...> got familiar with some basic stuff abt SQL and SQL Server.. hope all of> you would gimme good suggestions..

Good suggestions about what?

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Mad 16 January 2006 23:11:09 permanent link ]
 depends on what you know about suggesting someone asking you a
question, seems by your question that u needs suggestions as well...
thats nice... and abt " Good suggestions about what? " --- reead this
"am new to databases. Started of learning SQL on my own
and using SQL Server 2k... any pointers from ya'll abt my approach...
".. i requested for suggestions about hw to start things off...
something that you might want to put in thinking of how u started
off... take care ZeldorBlat

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Hugo Kornelis 16 January 2006 23:39:21 permanent link ]
 On 16 Jan 2006 06:55:55 -0800, Mad wrote:
Hello everyone, am new to databases. Started of learning SQL on my own>and using SQL Server 2k... any pointers from ya'll abt my approach...>got familiar with some basic stuff abt SQL and SQL Server.. hope all of>you would gimme good suggestions..

Hi Mad,

Here are some good places to start:

http://www.amazon.c­om/exec/obidos/searc­h-handle-url/103-392­1760-4671039?url=ind­ex%3Dblended&search-­option=search-amazon­&field-keywords=data­base+design+beginner­&Go.x=12&Go.y=13

http://www.amazon.c­om/exec/obidos/searc­h-handle-url/103-392­1760-4671039?url=ind­ex%3Dblended&search-­option=search-amazon­&field-keywords=sql+­server+2000+beginner­&Go.x=13&Go.y=15

Probably not what you hoped for, but the subjects of SQL and SQL Server
are just too broad and too complicated to be explained in a newsgroup
message.

--
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
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--Celko-- 17 January 2006 04:05:34 permanent link ]
 Start with a book on RDBMS basics, so you have a foundation. You will
probably also have to learn how to think in a declarative progamming
language. I find that takes about a year of full-time coding and some
people never get it.

After that, get an intro book on SQL and apy attention to the syntax
quirks.

After you get thru that book, get a copy of SQL FOR SMARTIES for the
advanced programming tricks.

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Tony Rogerson 17 January 2006 14:22:37 permanent link ]
 
After you get thru that book, get a copy of SQL FOR SMARTIES for the> advanced programming tricks.

But, be warned this book is based on standard SQL so a lot of the examples
won't work or there are better ways of coding using some of the built-in
functions of SQL Server.

Check out some of Itzik-Ben Gan's books which are more appropriate to SQL
Server and contain far better and more scalable examples.

--
Tony Rogerson
SQL Server MVP
http://sqlserverfaq­.com - free video tutorials


"--CELKO--" <jcelko212@earthlin­k.net> wrote in message
news:1137459934.454­621.116470@o13g2000c­wo.googlegroups.com.­..> Start with a book on RDBMS basics, so you have a foundation. You will> probably also have to learn how to think in a declarative progamming> language. I find that takes about a year of full-time coding and some> people never get it.>
After that, get an intro book on SQL and apy attention to the syntax> quirks.>
After you get thru that book, get a copy of SQL FOR SMARTIES for the> advanced programming tricks.>


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Guest 27 January 2006 14:36:45 permanent link ]
 Pls advice me of a small download compiler SQL that I can test my
program and exmples in it (select,insert,drop­,...)

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Guest 27 January 2006 14:39:34 permanent link ]
 Pls advice me of a small download compiler SQL that I can test my
program and exmples in it (select,insert,drop­,...)

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Jens 27 January 2006 15:27:15 permanent link ]
 You can use the syntax check in QA for this. Aynway, unless you don´t
have a database to do a semantic check and object resolution you can
hardly check that. Download a MSDE and fire the script against a sample
database.

HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.

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Mark C. Stock 27 January 2006 16:20:53 permanent link ]
 
<ehabaziz2001@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:1138361974.510­690.103970@g49g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> Pls advice me of a small download compiler SQL that I can test my> program and exmples in it (select,insert,drop­,...)>

why not get the real thing: oracle XE...you'll be glad you did.

http://www.oracle.c­om/technology/produc­ts/database/xe/index­.html

++ mcs


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Dan Guzman 27 January 2006 16:50:44 permanent link ]
 You can download the SQL Server 2005 Express Edition from the link below.
Not only is it free and fully functional, you can use it in production
application too.

http://www.microsof­t.com/downloads/deta­ils.aspx?familyid=22­0549b5-0b07-4448-884­8-dcc397514b41&displ­aylang=en

--
Hope this helps.

Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP

<ehabaziz2001@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:1138361974.510­690.103970@g49g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> Pls advice me of a small download compiler SQL that I can test my> program and exmples in it (select,insert,drop­,...)>


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HansF 27 January 2006 17:42:52 permanent link ]
 You can download the Oracle Database 10g Express Edition from the link
below. It is free and fully functional, for use in production, education,
testing, and so on.

http://www.oracle.c­om/technology/softwa­re/products/database­/oracle10g/index.htm­l

It also includes Oracle's HTMLDB, so you can create and deploy
web database applications without using any extra Java/C#, C/C++,
J2EE/.Net code

And while you are at it, you can also download Oracle's 'Project Raptor'
which provides a GUI environment - see all data & structures in all
your Oracle databases and schemas, do PL/SQL debugging, plus much, much
more. It, too, is it free and fully functionaland you can use it to build,
test, deploy productions applications too.

http://www.oracle.c­om/technology/produc­ts/database/project_­raptor/index.html

You don't mention platform explicitly - the above leaves you pretty much
operating system independent so you can chose the best, and most cost
effective, way to roll this out.

--
Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_­gmail.com
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DA Morgan 28 January 2006 01:09:23 permanent link ]
 Dan Guzman wrote:> You can download the SQL Server 2005 Express Edition from the link below. > Not only is it free and fully functional, you can use it in production > application too.>

Which is, of course, precisely what you can do with Oracle XE except
that you then are not limited to a single brain-dead operating system.
--
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http://www.psoug.or­g
damorgan@x.washingt­on.edu
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Doug 30 January 2006 04:08:07 permanent link ]
 isn't this a microsoft newsgroup?

maybe the oracle guys are getting bored and are sniping over here??????

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Doug 30 January 2006 04:09:43 permanent link ]
 VERY SORRY. My bad. I did not notice this was cross posted. I
thought it was only posted to the microsoft sql group.

My apologies, and i did not mean to start a flame fest, just bad
humor!!!

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Marion Scheffels 25 February 2006 16:46:51 permanent link ]
 Hi @all!

I am new to Visual Basic, having just created some Makros (SUBs in
English?) and facing a few problems. Please be patient with me... I am
not only a newbee but also German and didn't find a German
newsgroup... I might have some problem with understanding English tech
bubble ;-)­

I have a sheet with 12 address stickers and would like to have two
formatted text areas on any sticker where I actually need them. The
selected address on the sticker gets copied, formatted and appears in
the text areas just as I want them to.
But the text areas themselves always appear on the *first* sticker. I
want them to be put into the same sticker the address was copied from.

How can I get the right sticker selected?
These are the first two lines:
Selection.Copy
ActiveDocument.Shap­es.AddTextbox(msoTex­tOrientationHorizont­al,
36.3, _
35.5, 205.2, 84.5).Select
I'd bet there's some order/tag (sp?) at first or in between to choose
the same sticker as the marked text is in for inserting the text
areas.

Thank you in advance for your help!

MarionS
--
einwegadresse@mario­ns.de

"Didn't they say the pen was mightier than the sword?" - James Bond
"Thanks to me they were right!" - Q
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J French 25 February 2006 17:22:18 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:46:51 +0100, Marion Scheffels
<einwegadresse@mari­ons.de> wrote:
Hi @all!>
I am new to Visual Basic, having just created some Makros (SUBs in>English?) and facing a few problems. Please be patient with me... I am>not only a newbee but also German and didn't find a German>newsgroup...­ I might have some problem with understanding English tech>bubble ;-)­

You have posted in an old style VB News Group

VB.NET, VB 2003, VB 2005 ist nicht wirklich VB
- es it etwas anderes, mit einen falsche Name
(your English is probably better than my German, I congratulate you)

Probier' mal hier :-

news://msnews.micro­soft.com/microsoft.p­ublic.dotnet.general­
news://msnews.micro­soft.com/microsoft.p­ublic.dotnet.languag­es.vb
news://msnews.micro­soft.com/microsoft.p­ublic.vsnet.general
news://msnews.micro­soft.com/microsoft.p­ublic.vstudio.genera­l
news://msnews.micro­soft.com/microsoft.p­ublic.vstudio.setup
news://msnews.micro­soft.public.dotnet.l­anguages.vb.upgrade
news://msnews.micro­soft.public.dotnet.l­anguages.vb.controls­
news://msnews.micro­soft.public.dotnet.l­anguages.vb.data


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Marion Scheffels 25 February 2006 18:24:50 permanent link ]
 erewhon@nowhere.uk (J French) schrieb:
Probier' mal hier :-

Thanks, I'll have a look :-)­

(But I'll of course keep an eye on this thread in case somebody knows
an answer)

MarionS
--
einwegadresse@mario­ns.de

"Didn't they say the pen was mightier than the sword?" - James Bond
"Thanks to me they were right!" - Q
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Guest 8 July 2006 00:41:13 permanent link ]
 Hi GUys

I am new to javascript and would like to know if the following is
possible:

I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of
that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What
I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the
user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.

thanks

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Evertjan. 8 July 2006 01:03:12 permanent link ]
 wrote on 07 jul 2006 in comp.lang.javascrip­t:
Hi GUys>
I am new to javascript and would like to know if the following is> possible:>
I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of> that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What> I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the> user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.

Impossible.

What ia a dropdown arrow?

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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Tom Davis 8 July 2006 02:02:01 permanent link ]
 
Evertjan. wrote:> Impossible.>
What ia a dropdown arrow?

This isn't really impossible at all, you just can't use the standard
html <select> box to do it if you want the input box covering the
dropdown. Actually with some creative positioning you might even be
able to do that, but I don't know how (if at all) usable it would be.
Basically, the gist of it is this: have an input box that has a
listener on the form button (or just wait for ENTER), it then appends
whatever you put there into an "invisible" div that will appear when
you click on the select dropdown arrow, then add a listener on the list
elements so you know which was clicked, or make them submit a form.

So to answer your questions, yes it is possible.

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Evertjan. 8 July 2006 02:32:41 permanent link ]
 Tom Davis wrote on 08 jul 2006 in comp.lang.javascrip­t:
Evertjan. wrote:>> Impossible.>>
What is a dropdown arrow?>
This isn't really impossible at all, you just can't use the standard> html <select> box to do it if you want the input box covering the> dropdown. Actually with some creative positioning you might even be> able to do that, but I don't know how (if at all) usable it would be.> Basically, the gist of it is this: have an input box that has a> listener on the form button (or just wait for ENTER), it then appends> whatever you put there into an "invisible" div that will appear when> you click on the select dropdown arrow, then add a listener on the list> elements so you know which was clicked, or make them submit a form.>
So to answer your questions, yes it is possible.

Cross browser? I doubt it.

What is a dropdown arrow?

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The Netherlands.
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Randy Webb 8 July 2006 03:10:16 permanent link ]
 Tom Davis said the following on 7/7/2006 6:02 PM:> Evertjan. wrote:>> Impossible.>>
What ia a dropdown arrow?>
This isn't really impossible at all,

Yes it is.
you just can't use the standard html <select> box to do it if you want> the input box covering the dropdown.

Then it can't be done as asked as the OP specified a <select> (if you
can understand the gibberish wording of the question).
Actually with some creative positioning you might even be able to do that, > but I don't know how (if at all) usable it would be.

Considering that a <select> is a windowed component in IE and that
z-index has no effect on it, what you are saying might be possible is in
fact impossible.
Basically, the gist of it is this: have an input box that has a> listener on the form button (or just wait for ENTER), it then appends> whatever you put there into an "invisible" div that will appear when> you click on the select dropdown arrow, then add a listener on the list> elements so you know which was clicked, or make them submit a form.

Show some actual sample code that attempts to do what you are implying
might be able to be done.
So to answer your questions, yes it is possible.

No, it's not.

What is a "dropdown arrow" though?

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Jim Land 8 July 2006 07:47:27 permanent link ]
 winstontuck@gmail.co­m wrote in news:1152304873.359­742.132110
@m79g2000cwm.google­groups.com:
Hi GUys>
I am new to javascript and would like to know if the following is> possible:>
I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of> that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What> I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the> user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.

Perhaps you are thinking of a "Combo Box" which some GUIs use. It allows
the user to either select an item from the dropdown menu, or type text
into a text box. JavaScript doesn't have a built-in Combo Box control.
It's debatable whether you can create one using other JS controls.>

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TheBagbournes 8 July 2006 20:13:43 permanent link ]
 Jim Land wrote:> winstontuck@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1152304873.359­742.132110> @m79g2000cwm.google­groups.com:>
Hi GUys>>
I am new to javascript and would like to know if the following is>> possible:>>
I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of>> that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What>> I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the>> user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.>
Perhaps you are thinking of a "Combo Box" which some GUIs use. It allows > the user to either select an item from the dropdown menu, or type text > into a text box. JavaScript doesn't have a built-in Combo Box control. > It's debatable whether you can create one using other JS controls.

Of course you can create a control to do this. The <select> z-index problem is an IE6 bug.

You could develop a good control easily with http://developer.ya­hoo.com/yui/ which has good cross-browser capabilities.
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Randy Webb 8 July 2006 21:30:56 permanent link ]
 TheBagbournes said the following on 7/8/2006 12:13 PM:> Jim Land wrote:>> winstontuck@gmail.c­om wrote in news:1152304873.359­742.132110>> @m79g2000cwm.google­groups.com:>>
Hi GUys>>>
I am new to javascript and would like to know if the following is>>> possible:>>>
I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of>>> that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What>>> I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the>>> user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.>>
Perhaps you are thinking of a "Combo Box" which some GUIs use. It >> allows the user to either select an item from the dropdown menu, or >> type text into a text box. JavaScript doesn't have a built-in Combo >> Box control. It's debatable whether you can create one using other JS >> controls.>
Of course you can create a control to do this.

Prove it.
The <select> z-index problem is an IE6 bug.

Nonsense.

--
Randy
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Lasse Reichstein Nielsen 8 July 2006 21:51:05 permanent link ]
 Randy Webb <HikksNotAtHome@aol­.com> writes:

[Combo box]>> Of course you can create a control to do this.>
Prove it.

The examples of successful combo boxes I have seen have not used
select controls (and my feeble attempts at doing so all failed
miserably). The control is possible, but the implementation strategy
(using a combination of text control and select control) is unlikely
to work, especially across different browser (where the "down arrow
button" will probably have different widths, and there is no way to
find it).
The <select> z-index problem is an IE6 bug.>
Nonsense.

Do you really miss Thomas this much? :)­

It's true that the problem exists in other browsers than IE too.
Whether it's a bug or a feature, I'll leave to the philosophers.

/L
--
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DHTML Death Colors: <URL:http://www.inf­imum.dk/HTML/rasterT­riangleDOM.html>
'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine.'
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Matt Kruse 9 July 2006 01:35:22 permanent link ]
 Lasse Reichstein Nielsen wrote:> Do you really miss Thomas this much? :)­

Speaking of him, where did he go?

--
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http://www.AjaxTool­box.com


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Randy Webb 9 July 2006 06:15:09 permanent link ]
 Lasse Reichstein Nielsen said the following on 7/8/2006 1:51 PM:> Randy Webb <HikksNotAtHome@aol­.com> writes:>
[Combo box]>>> Of course you can create a control to do this.>> Prove it.>
The examples of successful combo boxes I have seen have not used> select controls (and my feeble attempts at doing so all failed> miserably). The control is possible, but the implementation strategy> (using a combination of text control and select control) is unlikely> to work, especially across different browser (where the "down arrow> button" will probably have different widths, and there is no way to> find it).>
The <select> z-index problem is an IE6 bug.>> Nonsense.>
Do you really miss Thomas this much? :)­

Ugggh....

Point made though.
It's true that the problem exists in other browsers than IE too.

That was precisely my point. Not well made but that was the point. It is
in IE4+ IIRC.
Whether it's a bug or a feature, I'll leave to the philosophers.

Ditto.


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Randy Webb 9 July 2006 06:17:36 permanent link ]
 Matt Kruse said the following on 7/8/2006 5:35 PM:> Lasse Reichstein Nielsen wrote:>> Do you really miss Thomas this much? :)­>
Speaking of him, where did he go?>

Shhhh, he might come back :)­

But it does make one curious.

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Kevin Darling 9 July 2006 23:30:07 permanent link ]
 
winstontuck@gmail.c­om wrote:> I want to create a dropdown and place a text input(editbox) on top of> that dropdown in such a way that only the dropdown arrow shows. What> I am actually trying to achieve is to have a dropdownbox in which the> user can type in its own value if not in the drop down list.

Two seconds of Googling found several attempts at creating an HTML
combo box. The best one seems to be at:

http://particletree­.com/features/upgrad­e-your-select-elemen­t-to-a-combo-box/

Cheers,
Kev

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Dr John Stockton 11 July 2006 17:32:18 permanent link ]
 JRS: In article <7j2oc7ee.fsf@hotpo­p.com>, dated Sat, 8 Jul 2006
19:51:05 remote, seen in news:comp.lang.java­script, Lasse Reichstein
Nielsen <lrn@hotpop.com> posted :>
Do you really miss Thomas this much? :)­

Now would be a good time to kill-rule Thomas Lahn, since if he returns
he'll probably post several thousand articles.

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Md Abu Naser 27 July 2006 21:22:50 permanent link ]
 Hi All,

I am very new. I wish to do some exercise before I go to real business.

Could anyone advise me any tutorial link or resources for beginner?

With best regards,


Abu Naser

School Of Life Sciences
Heriot-Watt University
Edinburgh EH14 4AS
Email: mn2@hw.ac.uk
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Fabio Cannavaro 10 August 2006 11:41:09 permanent link ]
 Hello,

I come from sql server 2000 and now I have to learn oracle (!).

Can you point me to some resource for newbie on Oracle to learn
something? I mean also history of the product, its evolution and so on.

any help much appreciated.

thx.
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Gazzag 10 August 2006 12:43:39 permanent link ]
 Fabio Cannavaro wrote:> Hello,>
I come from sql server 2000 and now I have to learn oracle (!).>
Can you point me to some resource for newbie on Oracle to learn> something? I mean also history of the product, its evolution and so on.>
any help much appreciated.>
thx.

Hi Fabio,

Nice to hear that you are coming over from the dark side ;-)­

Anyway, for a bit of general background on Oracle, you can do worse
than read this: http://en.wikipedia­.org/wiki/Oracle_dat­abase

Your best bet to start learning about how the product works is to read
the Oracle Concepts guide at:
http://download-uk.­oracle.com/docs/cd/B­19306_01/server.102/­b14220/toc.htm

It's a bit of a mammoth read, but you will find it invaluable.

Hope This Helps

-g

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Ana C. Dent 10 August 2006 17:20:56 permanent link ]
 Fabio Cannavaro <fatti@icazzi.tuoi>­ wrote in news:44dae338$0$350­67
$4fafbaef@reader4.n­ews.tin.it:
Hello,>
I come from sql server 2000 and now I have to learn oracle (!).>
Can you point me to some resource for newbie on Oracle to learn > something? I mean also history of the product, its evolution and so on.>
any help much appreciated.>
thx.

http://tahiti.oracl­e.com
http://asktom.oracl­e.com
http://www.orafaq.c­om/forum/i/74940/
http://www.dbforums­.com/forumdisplay.ph­p?s=&daysprune=&f=4
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DA Morgan 10 August 2006 20:08:21 permanent link ]
 Fabio Cannavaro wrote:> Hello,>
I come from sql server 2000 and now I have to learn oracle (!).>
Can you point me to some resource for newbie on Oracle to learn > something? I mean also history of the product, its evolution and so on.>
any help much appreciated.>
thx.

Tom Kyte's books.
http://tahiti.oracl­e.com (read Concepts docs first, then Architecture
docs, before looking at any syntax)

Best possible advice. Everything in Oracle is different ... even when it
seems familiar. The words "database" and "instance" have an entirely
different meaning. Locking and transactions are based on completely
different paradigms. Never ever build a temp table.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washingt­on.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
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Richard.Drouillard@Gmail.Com 11 August 2006 16:54:02 permanent link ]
 I'm a bit of a newbie myself. Only been in the Oracle world for less
than a year.

Some things I've done that have really helped.

Oracle Press Books:
Oracle 10g: A beginner's guide (really helps with those fundamental
concepts)
Oracle 10g: DBA handbook (expands those fundamental concepts)
Oracle 10g: SQL (just a good reference)

I've also taken the Oracle University Course:
Oracle 10g: Administration Workshop I (really good course for
beginners, if you company will pay for it that is)


- Rich

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Darwin Pintado 11 October 2006 05:55:39 permanent link ]
 Hi David,

I fresh beginner in perl and I'd like to know how what
started you in doing perl. What are other benefits of
learninng perl and what use will it be in the future.

Can you also provide other learning sites.

Thank you in advance for your help!


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Romeo Theriault 13 October 2006 16:22:28 permanent link ]
 Perl is cross-platform, extremely useful for working with large
amounts of text, using regular expressions, it has a great repository
of modules for you to use for just about any task you can think of
(CPAN), it's open source, it's got a great community, the list goes
on and on.

I would recommend picking up a book to begin your way in perl.
Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix is a great starting
place.

Romeo



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Hi David,>
I fresh beginner in perl and I'd like to know how what> started you in doing perl. What are other benefits of> learninng perl and what use will it be in the future.>
Can you also provide other learning sites.>
Thank you in advance for your help!>
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Darwin Pintado 15 October 2006 16:43:13 permanent link ]
 Thanks Romeo for the heads up!

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Perl is cross-platform, extremely useful for working> with large > amounts of text, using regular expressions, it has a> great repository > of modules for you to use for just about any task> you can think of > (CPAN), it's open source, it's got a great> community, the list goes > on and on.>
I would recommend picking up a book to begin your> way in perl. > Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix is a> great starting > place.>
Romeo>
On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Darwin Pintado wrote:>
Hi David,> >
I fresh beginner in perl and I'd like to know how> what> > started you in doing perl. What are other benefits> of> > learninng perl and what use will it be in the> future.> >
Can you also provide other learning sites.> >
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